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Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I always thought that if there were ever a dedicated mod discord server, it would probably be for, I don't know, discussing modding issues? I didn't think it would be a space where a mod can share concerns about a recip requesting an EPH, then invite the 100+ members to read the fic and weigh in if it warrants an EPH. And when the community ultimately decides that no, it does not warrant an EPH, that they would then go on to call the recip a liar, read though their gift and comment history, and speculate on what their damage is.

Did y'all learn nothing from the MFD debacle? I swear the spirit of Ashling still haunts that place.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Is there more info on any of this?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Now shipping skeptical mod/lying recip

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

There's a dedicated mod discord server???

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Which exchange was this? And is it a mod server for all mods of all exchanges or some mods of some exchanges? I am very curious.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Guess I'll continue to never ask for ephs when stuff breaks dnws, yikes

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Yikes. I recently requested an EPH but didn't get one. Could you give more details? Like fandom's initial, or word count range, or hints in that direction?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in that server and just backread (I didn't participate in the discussion) and this is a crazy biased bad-faith reading of the situation.

The mod was concerned because to them it felt like the recip just didn't like the fic - it didn't hit a DNW or violate any rules of the exchange, though it might not have been actually a good fic (but nobody's guaranteed that). They asked the members to read the fic because they (the mod) was squicked by the content.

ONE PERSON bashed the recipient and called them a liar (and I agree that was uncalled for and the way they went on about things makes me suspect there is History here). Everyone else who read the fic or commented in the discussion seemed pretty even-handed in their assessment of the situation.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

That sucks for the recip and the author too, who apparently didn't do anything wrong but might have noticed 100+ new hits without any kudos or comments.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

So do we know if/which other exchanges are modded by this mod or is there no way to avoid them?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

It was already being used to dunk on participants back when I was running exchanges and in it. Good to know nothing's changed.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Has there been any acknowledgement from involved parties or backtracking since this was leaked?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

>speculate on what their [recip's] damage is

Is this a paraphrase of something else EO said?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

My conclusion from this whole thread is never ask anyone for an EPH because it's just not worth it.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

When I saw the word "cabal" I rolled my eyes, thought you were blowing things out of proportion ect. I'd like to be the first coalie to apologize because what the fuuuuuuck.

Please name and shame. Pretty please.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Someone should post on the yuletide admin com and ask what yuletide's policies for their mods are.

I would, but I can't figure out how to get a vpn to work on this stupid tablet and I don't want to give them my ip.

I wrote this comment into the comment box and then realized that they log ips:

Hi!

Because of recent happenings in regards to mod misbehavior in a different exchange, it's come to light that there exists a discord group where mods of various exchanges congregate and mock participants.

I would like to know:

- are any yuletide mods members of that server?

- what are the rules and standards for yuletide mods? Are there explicit rules against that sort of behavior?

- how are emails to the yuletide mods treated? Are there explicit rules about not discussing these with people who are not yuletide mods?

- are there explicit rules about not trash-talking participants, either in private or in semi-public discord servers?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

To completely fork this thread: is it normal for mods to run exchanges that contain content everybody on the mod team is too squicked/triggered by to be able to read? That seems like. A very bad choice. If you're a mod who knows they can't mod certain kinds of content, either preemptively ban that from your exchange or find a comod who can cover what you can't.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Is the RS mod gonna put up a feedback post on the comm after creator reveals?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

do other coalies think this will be kickstarted again when yuletide posts their official statement y/n

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

FFA frantically screened a link to this thread, LOLOL.

Re: Mod C*bal

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty antisemitic and fucked up to refer to the server as a "Cabal" ngl OP, shame on you

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

NC

Did y'all learn nothing from the MFD debacle? I swear the spirit of Ashling still haunts that place.

Someone pointed me to this wank and, you know what, I was there for the MFD debacle.

My biggest takeaway from that time was: why the fuck did no one say anything right then to the moderators who were behaving inappropriately?

Now it turns out a conversation turned to bad-faith shittery again. And there wasn't any pushback for four hours. Good thing there was pushback, but it was weaksauce.

More to the point, I strongly doubt that pushback was from you.

So maybe no one learned anything from the MFD events. You definitely did not.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

Am I the only one here who'd prefer a mod crowdsourcing for my EPH rather than taking a decision while not even being able to actually read the gift?

Granted, what EO did was shitty and if I heard about it I would block and DNM, but I'd still prefer that over "Well, this squicks all of us in different ways but let's still make a judgement call on that on our own".

I had to ask for an EPH twice and ngl I didn't much care who knew why as long as I could get the mod to make a decision.

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/704223.html?thread=4339395551#cmt4339395551

Which one of them is this, do you think?

Re: Mod Cabal

[(Anonymous)]

So now that it's all said and done, I want to know: did any mods actually state in plain and simple English that talking about the recip the way EO + Ad did is not okay?