Coal Friending Meme

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone interested? I'll namespace up if so

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Ask again in 12h when the current crop of wankers move out and the regulars are back

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Am I drunk or has the number of stories changed again?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
1183 doesn't seem right, but I could be (probably am) wrong.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
There were 1182 fandoms earlier. Now there are 1183. The number of stories is the same (2076).

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Words: 1,310 Chapters: 14/14

Why do people do this?

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is it a cyoa?

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In your experience...

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
...How long does it take a placeholder commenter to return? Been waiting three days for one of mine to return and I'm curious as to whether this is short/long/average/I should now expect them to disappear off the face of the earth.

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One time it took two days. The other time, they hadn't reappeared by author reveals, so I replied to their placeholder and was like, "I'm so glad you liked the fic! I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it," and then they came back in a day or so.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
my butt hits to kudos ratio is great

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Who else hears all these in Bad Janet's voice?

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Skirting DNWs

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I've noticed a few people who've complained about fics that skirted close to their DNWs but didn't quite hit them in a way that would justify going to the mods.

In your experience, coalies, how common is this?

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Depends on the fandom/writer and how the DNW was worded. And I don’t mean “I wouldn’t like x” vs “DNW: X” (people that don’t get that are idiots) but saying “I want happy endings” instead of saying “I don’t like prolonged angst” and then thinking a mostly unhappy fic with a HEA ending is skirting your DNWs.

I got a fic that was the opposite end of the [trope] dynamic that I enjoy to the point where it felt like a DNW. I don’t think the author was skirting my DNWs even though all my other likes (when put next to that trope) would show you clearly what I would be looking for when it came to that ship, but some people are bad at context clues or are so into what they like that they are blind that it isn’t what you like.

IME, that is the most common form of DNW skimming. The “I’m not touching you” circling your listed DNWs is intentional even from casual readers POV and is thankfully more rare.

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Hidden Gems

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Rec coal the hidden gems with <10 kudos. (Hard mode: <5 kudos.)

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https://archiveofourown.org/works/21933061

grand budapest hotel: identity porn, witty and sharp, captures the spirit of canon beautifully, 3.8k

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THIS FIC ALL SUCKS WHERES THE MCU

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NOT IN YULETIDE BECAUSE IT'S A MEGAFANDOM, YOU FUCKING KNOB

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Author Guesses

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a few of these on FFA, but I'd love to know what coalies think.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
We've made some guesses already over here:
https://coaltide.dreamwidth.org/1966.html?thread=4669870#cmt4669870

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Great stories in Yuletide you don't need to know the fandom at all to appreciate?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
What it says on the tin. The fewer comments the stories have, the better.

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Fiat Justitia (https://archiveofourown.org/works/21615796/comments/270176299)

Five ways in which Frederick the Great and Maria Theresia did not meet (https://archiveofourown.org/works/21573508/chapters/51434317)

Both 18th Century RPF which contains all the necessary historical Information to understand it. Intense emotions, complex characters.

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Has anyone ever participated in Yuletide younger than 18?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
What it says on the tin.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
My first year a majillion years ago

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Essie Today at 20:48
Well, my recipient still hasn't responded, but that thankfully hasn't stopped other people from comments or kudos.

i know we've all bratted about this at some point, but i can't imagine saying something like this in namespace

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's the tone that gets me. Congratulations on the comments and kudos, I suppose?

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Tactical errors

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Spotted in this year's collection.

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Brought to you by the Tahani/Eleanor space AU for The Good Place, which is tagged Alternate Universe - Space and Crossovers & Fandom Fusions, but not with what it specifically is, which is a Fifth Element fusion. I suspect people aren't clicking because they figure it's a fusion for a canon they don't know (I was figuring Charlie Stross's Accelerando, based on the title) -- or they are clicking and then backclicking when they realize it's for Fifth Element.

Also, expanding the tentacle porn (ok, tendril porn) elements enough to make it M-rated and then advertising said elements in the tags might have helped.

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Lesbian/Male Rapist Who Makes Her Beg For It

Ugh, looks like that RedRumRaver is signing up for Chocolate Box with their homophobic shit. Not enough for them to try and traumatize Yuletiders, was it? They're every bit as bad as heeroluva and aquatics.

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It’s still Yuletide. Wait for your CB wank or take it to FFA, friend.

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Feedback lower this year?

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Plenty of people seem to be kudosing fics, but there seem to be fewer comments all around.

I wonder if ppl are still burned out over the holidays... I can see why, as I personally haven't had time to read anything but my own gifts yet (got loads bookmarked for the weekend though!)

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For me, it was the exact opposite. I think it depends a lot on the fandom. But yeah, overall people read less than they do outside of the holiday season. It's obvious if you look at the overall stats (hits, comments and kudos) in fandoms that exist outside of Yuletide as well.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
saucy doesn't even look like a word anymore

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That wank is so dumb. I really hope its the author and the recip fighting because anyone hating the word that much or defending it so ardently on a gift they don’t owe anything to is both very FFA and extremely sad.

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put sauce on my saucy butt

Any unrevealed AO3 challenges running right now?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's me, coalie who said they could look into coding something to gather a list of treatless participants some threads ago. Slowly poking at some code, and I'd like to see what the html of an unrevealed work looks like on a gifts page — anything convenient happening right now? If not I could wait for Chocolate Box or muck around with a test collection, but thanks!

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I'm so excited for this!

I think Critmas is probably going to be easiest to check. It reveals on the first so not much time but that means a lot of fics are in.

https://archiveofourown.org/collections/Critmas_2019

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Am I correct in my understanding that reveals will be 24hrs from now? The page says 12AM UTC which is confusing as hell.

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Depends on your time zone.

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your butt smells funny

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Gift Stealing

(Anonymous) 2019-12-31 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe your gift sucks, maybe it’s fine...but someone else in the collection got the gift you REALLY wanted, and you’re kicking their name off to slap on your own.

Vague about the fic you wish was your gift or hype it explicitly with a link.

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It doesn't really count, but someone else got a really great fic with kinks I adore... for a fandom I've never encountered before. /o\ Would have loved to get that with my characters.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-31 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Why do I keep hopefully checking the recs post to see if my fic's been rec'd? It won't be. I know it won't be. And yet...

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Same, coalie. It's just an instinct, I think!

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One Day Left

(Anonymous) 2019-12-31 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
One day left to get comments in before author reveals. Who's still waiting on recip comments or placeholder returnees?

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Me, but my recip has a history of actually returning, a solid gift pile, and I got some other nice ones to tide me over, so I’m not too pressed.

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Future Yuletide plans and ambitions

(Anonymous) 2019-12-31 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Now that the Yuletide season is nearly over, are you going to change anything for next year? Do you have any new ambitions (or old ones you still haven't managed to achieve yet)?

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Not a plan, but an ambition: I'm so jealous of the people who write those perfectly in-character plotty fics in the 10-15k range, and someday I would like to manage to write one. ;_;

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