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I wish I knew what the troll's actual beef with Aquatics is. There's a total disconnect between the ragey wank and the canon being an anti-Nazi comedy.

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I don't think they have an actual beef. They just smelled blood in the water and went for it. There's a handful of other people they go after periodically also, and regularly get frozen for, but they never get any traction, because their ~reasons for going after those people are things like "the person ships this ship I don't like, ew." And people are less likely to take that bait.

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DA: And the canon is obscure enough that the troll/wanker can get away with misrepresenting it as pro-Nazi without much pushback.

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I get the impression that some people just can't deal with any nuance regarding fictional Germans during WWII. If a fictional character lives in Nazi Germany, they have to either be a hero who saves Jews and works against the regime, a victim of persecution or an evil Nazi. This thing where they're in the Wehrmacht and also persecuted and also sort of subversive just breaks people's minds.

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I wonder why!

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God, this is an insanely creepy comment to read. No fucking shit people are sensitive about even fake Nazis. It isn’t actually that hard to find people willing to believe there were very fine people on both sides.

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Eh, I don't think people would have a problem if there actually was nuance. The whole "invent a fake gay brother for a real Nazi general" angle makes it seem like the author is aggressively trying to absolve the characters of any responsibility for the actions of the regime they're literally fighting for while still tapping in to that cool Nazi cachet, and it doesn't help that people do that with actual RL Rommel too. News flash: not being an antisemite ~in your heart~ doesn't count for shit when you supported the antisemites seizing power in your own country and then helped them take over Europe so they could gas everyone. Goebbels wasn't an antisemite either before he hopped aboard the Hitler train.

And the fact people are tagging fic with "pure Germanic male relations" doesn't do wonders to convince me of their good intentions.

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I can't comment on your newsflashes, but the tag is pretty obviously a joke about the no-homo fanfic a character writes in the story.

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That may well be true, but it's sending a pretty ambiguous signal to anyone casually glancing over the tags... which is going to be most onlookers, because most people are not into reading Desert Peach fic.

There are some things that are better kept as fandom in-jokes and not broadcast to the wider community, even at the cost of not reccing your Yuletide gift on anonmemes.

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Is tagging a fic really broadcasting? I usually tag based on the assumption people who are interested in my fic are familiar with the canon.

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+100

the drive to lust after nazi trappings while trying to erase the actual nazism is not great.

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Does trappings mean uniform kink here or?

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Have you considered that some of us are German and find it incredibly creepy that someone finds nazi-uniforms hot?

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Have you considered we don't care what nazis think?

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I cannot imagine the roadmap of your mind that has you thinking that currently wanting to fuck Nazis is worse than being a current German citizen.

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Ah yes, the people who DON'T kink on nazis are the real nazis. Makes perfect sense!

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Have you considered that you are an idiot?

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Have you considered that some of us are German and think that kinktomato is still kinktomato even when it's kinks that we personally find repulsive?

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Have you tried parenting up to see that I replied to someone who seems to think that anyone who finds nazi-kink creepy cannot have possible ever consumed any works set in Germany that aren't allllll about the nazis?

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+1 from another German nonnie

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I don't think it's a single person. It's a mix of a (?) troll having found a target that gets a satisfying rise out of people, a bunch of antis, and at least one person who has a hateboner for frequent PHs and finds Aquatics a much easier target than other people on the PH ists who have good egg status.

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da

I mean, I'm pretty sure the person who wanks about aquatics is the same person who wanks about frequent PHs - and also double drabbles, and Peter/Tony, and a host of other things. The, er, "conversation" style is always very similar in the wank for all those things.

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You're wrong, but keep pretending you're Sherlock Holmes.

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AYRT

Possibly, but there's also the possibility that there are multiple trolls/wankers who just sound similar. It's not like they're ever eloquent enough to properly compare and contrast stylistic choices.

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"the troll" is aquatics self-trolling. It's become very clear. They never get any shit for the fandom stuff they actually post; the "trolling" always comes up when they're trying to get people to join their fandom.