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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
How is this any different than saying that the bodice ripper genre is "borderline rape apologetics"? Their kink is problematic, no kidding, but we don't go around saying that other people need to have sufficiently realistic depictions of their kinks.

And anyway, if they are actually kinking on the uniforms or whatever, surely it's less problematic if they're kinking on characters who aren't brutally oppressing and murdering people?

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Let’s talk again when everyone’s favorite bodice ripper series is about the fake brother of a real serial rapist.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Can I interest you in: the BILLION dollar industry that is the True Crime genre??????

How horny on main people were for the Zefron movie about Ted Bundy?

The like 15 movies about Dahmer?

Seriously like do you not know how many fandoms are outright about actual awful people or are just about awful people with the serials filed off/“their brother”? Most fandoms don’t even bother to try to defang them, they’re straight up muderders (Hannibal) and that is what the fandom likes?????

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Fucking American Horror Story in general is a Yuletide perennial!

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There are plenty of people who behave about AHS and Ted Bundy the way aquatics behaves about DP, and you bet I'm creeped out by them too.

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Seriously like do you not know how many fandoms are outright about actual awful people or are just about awful people with the serials filed off/“their brother”? Most fandoms don’t even bother to try to defang them, they’re straight up murderers (Hannibal) and that is what the fandom likes?????


Hannibal is fictional. That's dramatically different than someone wanting fic about The BTK killer's brother or John Wayne Gacy's nephew twice removed.

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Hannibal is based on a real life dude.

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Seriously like do you not know how many fandoms are outright about actual awful people or are just about awful people with the serials filed off

+100! Star Wars is a megafandom all about making America's various political psychodramas/traumas galaxy-sized ffs. The bad guys are all Republican presidents, Nazis, mob bosses, etc. in fancy dress.

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People think those things are creepy, too. And that’s before you get into the arguments of true crime being mostly about the fantasy of solving the mystery, putting The Bad Men behind bars... basically the Inglourious Basterds side of this argument.

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I'd like to see you stay calm if someone peddled their 9/11 porn every exchange.

Characters are trying to join the Mile High Club! Turns out they're on a plane that's gotten hijacked and will crash into the world trade center, oh no! Can they finish their fuck before they die?

It's easy for you to say nazis don't real, because you're on a different continent and to you that's never been more than the fun evil antagonists from Indiana Jones or Captain America.

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Americans have had to deal with 9/11 terrorism porn peddled across something like fifty movies by now and politicians that fuck over first responders and soldiers trotting it out at minimum twice a year.

Americans also birthed the KKK, which is where Nazis pulled a good majority of their bullshit from.

They are also dealing with a huge revival of Nazism and have an actual Nazi as president.

Trying to turn this into countrywank by picking the one non-German country that is feeling the most Nazi drama right now certainly is a freezing cold take.

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You sure like to feel important.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like a fucking idiot, and this is why people hate Americans. People are being rounded into camps and murdered in both China and Kashmir right now, and the crackdowns in places like Hungary, Venezuela etc are far worse than the USA's pathetic politics. Oppression Olympics are dumb, but claiming you have it worst is outright fucking offensive.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Good lord you are dumb. White extremists are quite literally this biggest domestic threat in the USA right now. 99% of the terrorism events this year were done by Nazis and that estimate may even be me rounding down low. The fuck are you pulling 9/11 out of your ass for?

The British Army ruined many a life and country too but Age of Sail shit is still popular. Irish people have a million reasons to be bitter at any British canon. Presidential RPF is fucked up. Alexander the Great is in the tagset and we all know that wasn’t a consensual campaign.

All of this is fiction written by hobbyists bitch, get a grip.

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k your last two paragraphs happened centuries to thousands of years ago

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Hot a nerve, huh? Resulting to misoginistic slurs sure shows what you really are.

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I know people who act about British colonialism the way aquatics does about Desert Peach and it's SUPER SUPER CREEPY. This is not the gotcha you think it is.

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Bob and Tom are having a quicky in the office but suddenly everyone is panicking! The building has been hit by a plane and is on fire! Can Tom come before they burn to death?

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Characters are trying to join the Mile High Club! Turns out they're on a plane that's gotten hijacked and will crash into the world trade center, oh no! Can they finish their fuck before they die?

To be honest, as an American I think that would be hilarious.

Also I'm not sure how you know what continent coalies are typing from, or how WW II factors into their personal history. I was born over here, but most of what should have been my generation in my family wasn't born anywhere because two thirds of the family got gassed. Nazis aren't an abstraction to me.

(I also think CYRT's argument is dumb as bag of rocks, but this kind of baseless ad hominem is not a refutation of it.)

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ayrt

I can clearly see you think this is a gotcha, but I sure don't see why you think that.

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(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
How is this any different than saying that the bodice ripper genre is "borderline rape apologetics"? Their kink is problematic, no kidding, but we don't go around saying that other people need to have sufficiently realistic depictions of their kinks.

People absolutely do go around saying that about other kinks, though.

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If only we had a name for those people.

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Margaret Atwood is an anti, folks, you heard it here first.

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People do, and we tell them off for it, because it's bullshit.