coaltide | One Wank After Another

Chaos option: eliminate the box for additional details in the sign up form. No DNWs, no prompts. You request one or more characters and that's it. Forget ODAO, now we're doing NDAN (no details are needed). What insane thing will your writer create from the raw clay of the characters from Macdonald Hall or Murderbot? It'll definitely be a surprise!!

(Obviously, in this scenario, letters are also eliminated. NDAN!)

If I wanted this I'd just open the tag and read a random badfic.

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Or not even badfic in the sense that it's badly written, just a random fic in the tag that has no elements in it that interest me.

That's not a gift exchange, though, because some random fic that the recipient has a strong chance of hating isn't really a gift in the traditional sense of the word.

I think this would be a fun format, but not for a traditional fic exchange. (Also, commenting should be understood as optional and rejecting gifts you don't like should be encouraged.)

If you have a strong chance of hating a story about the fandom and characters you requested without a long DNW list bracketing it, maybe you need to reconsider why you're trying to get some stranger on the internet to write for you instead of writing what you want to see for yourself.

CYRT

Because that's what gift exchanges are for. I try my best to write the fic of their heart for my recip according to their preferences and vice versa. You get that that's the whole point of fic exchanges for a lot of people, right?

That’s one of those things where the modern Yuletide doesn’t really line up with Yuletide from 20 years ago. Like I remember early on there was a lot of “omg I thought I was the only one who wanted Jo and Laurie to end up together” type stuff, people excitedly rewriting favorite childhood canons, etc, but now that it’s more “fic for a fandom that gets little to no fic” I feel like the subversive element is mostly gone and I agree it’s awkward when people request a dark canon and DNW most of the canon elements. But it’s also one of those things I can’t really see more rules fixing, just modern exchange culture.

I don't think those two things you're contrasting are in conflict, nor do I think one has given way to the other over time. There's still plenty of the former. And "little to no fic" is a weird way to describe Yuletide when a fandom can have more than 1k fic before filters and still eligible. SOME people use Yuletide to ask for fandoms with little to no fic, but lots of others don't.

Like, I just don't recognize the supposed trend you're describing.

DC

TBH I still see '1k before filters' as little to no fic, and I assume CYRT meant more along the lines of the various megafandoms that still end up in the tagset by virtue of a technicality.

Are you dumb? Why does anyone read anything instead of writing something themselves and re-reading it? Because it's always more satisfying to read someone else's story than recycle your own brain contents over and over.

DC

Of course it's more satisfying to get gift fic commissioned to spec, but that doesn't actually mean it's reasonable to do so.

I'd like you to find me one dnw list that is so limiting that it forces you to literally write a commission to spec. Go on. Just one.

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