The Coalies Are Back In Town

[coalcube]

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again

Nominations: Mon 20 Sept to Thurs 30 Sept
Sign-ups: Fri 15 Oct to Sat 23 Oct
Assignments out by: Mon 25 Oct
Default deadline: Sat 11 Dec
Assignment deadline: Sat 18 Dec
Reveals: Sat 25 Dec

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

first!!

what are you thinking about nomming?

[(Anonymous)]

?

Re: what are you thinking about nomming?

[(Anonymous)]

Thinking about Psychonauts. There's a lot of cute art on twitter of the interns interacting with Raz's siblings and it's making me want fic.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven’t done the Trick or Treat exchange for a few years and was thinking of participating this year, but WTF is with this tagset? If you’re going to add ship (both /and &) matching might as well scrap character matching while you're at it. Wanting the best of both worlds just makes the tagset a total eyesore.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh? A lot of exchanges that use "&" groups also give you the option to nominate characters alone.

Coalmod

[(Anonymous)]

Could you mark the discords 18+ please?

Re: Coalmod

[(Anonymous)]

Also the FF wiki link is either wrong or the wiki has been taken down.

old faves or all new?

[(Anonymous)]

My slate of fandoms for the past few exchanges have all been Yuletide eligible, so I could basically just copy my signup (with some tweaks to account for the character matching). I worry people will get bored looking at my same signup all the time, though! Maybe I should try out a whole new slate of fandoms for Yuletide!

OTOH, most of the people in YT don't do other exchanges and won't have even seen most of my requests before.

Does anyone else angst about this? Tips, anecdotes?

Re: old faves or all new?

[(Anonymous)]

Usually I do a mix. This year I think I’ll do all new-to-Yuletide but that I’ve requested in other fandoms before.

If you know you are able to write 2 fics, this is a perfect occasion to sock up. Your main requests the old and the sock asks for the new.

[(Anonymous)]

the butts are back

[(Anonymous)]

Is LiveJournal dead?

[(Anonymous)]

No, no, it's, uh, it's resting.

Incest for Yuletide

[(Anonymous)]

Who wants some? Or who wants to write some?

Re: Incest for Yuletide

[(Anonymous)]

ME. I will be requesting my usual brothercest ship and definitely trawling for possible sibling incest requests.

To give or to receive?

[(Anonymous)]

Do you, personally, tend to nominate fandoms you want gifts for, or fandoms you want to write for?

Re: To give or to receive?

[(Anonymous)]

Want gifts for. I have enough fandoms I can write that I'm not worried about that end. Plus there's not much point nomming fandoms to write if nobody's going to request them.

If I know all my requests this year are already nommed though, I might throw something in just as a wildcard to see if it strikes a chord with anyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

Yuletide joins this year's trend of sudden new exchange rules!

https://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org/83881.html

To be fair, they are being less wanky than others! Discuss?

[(Anonymous)]

I only care about characters so this doesn't impact me on a request or offer side.

However, I wonder if this means that given that authors can now offer worldbuilding (e.g. they offer Dave and Taylor and Worldbuilding), if I were to not request worldbuilding (e.g. I request Dave and Taylor) but was given a fic that was mostly about the worldbuilding (e.g the fic is a lot about how Dave and Taylors daily shifts are on the space station they work at and only a small portion is about their friendship or their internal thoughts as they pertain to themselves/each other), would the mods get me a PH during their "checks", or could I report the fic for mostly being about the world and not my requested characters and then be granted an EPH that is actually what I requested?

Because if so, then I would be happy to have this be a thing. If authors and recips can now specify they want something (worldbuilding, gen, ships, whatever) that means that not asking for it has more weight than "accidentally" tripping into that territory.

In the past worldbuilding-heavy gen where nothing happens got more of a pass since it technically involved the characters. If Worldbuilding becomes a thing, that kind of fic for character-only requests shouldn't be able to fly (since having it be all about characters and not doing much worldbuilding would be grounds for someone who only asked for Worldbuilding to get an EPH, right?) from my understanding of the rules as the mods lay them out.

RPF guidelines changes

[(Anonymous)]

oooh I see, they aren't just looking at redoing worldbuilding requests, they're going to trickle these out one at a time until the end of the season, just for Coalies!

Re: RPF guidelines changes

[(Anonymous)]

I got all excited for a moment, but they're not really considering a rule change. Just trying to clarify guidelines on how to determine rpf "fandoms" to nominate.

Canon Recs

[(Anonymous)]

Some people want some, you happen to have some.

Re: Canon Recs - short anime

[(Anonymous)]

I'm looking for short animes (< 24ish episodes) to broaden my tiny wading pool of canons! Preference to historical and then it's open season. Tell me why you like your tiny anime canon!

Bets

[(Anonymous)]

Never too early to start betting. What do you think will be big for Yuletide this year? What do you think will win Yuletide? How many signups there will be? Total works?

Re: Bets

[(Anonymous)]

I bet that The Green Knight movie will be popular! And one of those 5 min fandom fics will win Yuletide again...

[(Anonymous)]

Poor coalies who want wank. Not even Hockey RPF is delivering.

Letters

[(Anonymous)]

Who's got an early start and actually done one? And who is still deciding what to nom/request and possibly leave letters to the very last minute?

Re: Letters

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't written my letter but am planning it - most of my requests will be the same except for one very sweet five-minute fandom I've decided I want to ask for.

1 downside to switching from character matching to ship matching

[(Anonymous)]

Yuletide nomination coordination would go down. Who would want to see their NOTPs in the tagset?

Re: 1 downside to switching from character matching to ship matching

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine you wouldn't be able to offer any in most cases anymore. Imagine having to write max number of ships in one single fic... which would be a possible request.

[(Anonymous)]

i can smell your butt

[(Anonymous)]

and it smells like heaven, I say

Promo Post

[(Anonymous)]

https://yuletide.dreamwidth.org/254165.html

Are you going to promote any of your canons there? Do you see anything you're thinking about checking out?

Re: Promo Post

[(Anonymous)]

I'm eyeing The Darkside Detective with interest! Point and click games are exactly my speed, and I love horror-adjacent stuff and pixel art.

Yo, coalies, it's nomination time

[(Anonymous)]

https://yuletide-admin.dreamwidth.org/84941.html

Re: Yo, coalies, it's nomination time

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry for the potentially dumb question (I promise I looked around the admin and other comm) but is there a nomination reporting post/spreadsheet? Is it just not up yet or has that kind of thing moved over to Discord rather than DW?

Worldbuilding is go!

[(Anonymous)]

I am wondering how people are going to use this, and vacillating on whether to nom it or not.

I was thinking that if it went through, I would use it to request things like "what happened during the canon timeskip?" or "a story from when everybody was at boarding school" or "any canon character and their relationship to religion" - the sort of things I might have either put on an Any request, or might have nominated a specific character from that part of canon just to use as a signifier rather than wanting only that particular character.

But I am already seeing people treating "worldbuilding" as if it means "OC fic". What do you think, coalies, if I request "Worldbuilding" am I tanking my chances of getting "anything set at Hogwarts during the period between Grindlewald and Voldemore that engages with changes in Muggle society" instead of "My OC is a Ravenclaw"? Am I misusing "worldbuilding" if I say I only want things involving (any) canon characters? Are people going to expect to only get requests for encyclopedia articles about grain tariffs? Is there some other interpretation of "worldbuilding" that's going to trip me up?

If I want "worldbuilding that expands on this part of canon" is it still safer to request worldbuilding + a character from that part of canon or can I go with just "worldbuilding"?

And if I offer "Worldbuilding" what kind of prompts do you think I can expect to get?

Re: Worldbuilding is go!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm planning to request Worldbuilding for a fandom with 0 fics, where the main character isn't very interesting and is likely dying by the end of the story. The only named character who likely survives there's almost nothing known about. So I'm going to ask for Worldbuilding about either OCs or that named character (who's essentially an OC).

But in Worldbuilding-Ex, I've written worldbuilding about a character from the canon, largely expanding upon her backstory.

[(Anonymous)]

i nominated my butt

[(Anonymous)]

is your butt a fandom or a character

Shiny new (to you) Yuletide fandoms

[(Anonymous)]

What brand new small fandoms are you planning to nominate or request, or do you hope to write?

Re: Shiny new (to you) Yuletide fandoms

[(Anonymous)]

I watched the Re-Animator movies for the first time this year and I am excited to request it and look for people to treat.

[(Anonymous)]

Bungo Stray Dogs: BEAST
Akutagawa Ryuunosuke (Bungou Stray Dogs)
Nakajima Atsushi (Bungou Stray Dogs)
Nakahara Chuuya (Bungou Stray Dogs)
Dazai Osamu (Bungou Stray Dogs)

Looks like someone's trying to sneak in a megafandom.

[(Anonymous)]

BEAST appears to be an official AU of the main series, so I can see why they might think its eligible. If you only consider fics tagged with the various BEAST tags, it does seem to come under the limit. Does it actually differ enough to count, though?

Is everyone here from FFA?

[(Anonymous)]

?

Re: Is everyone here from FFA?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I think it's a really boring place.

How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

[(Anonymous)]

I have a very dark, smutty story that is not my usual kind of thing. Usually when I post smut, I archive-lock it so that it can't escape into the wild, because I've had a (non-smut, thankfully) story accidentally get linked into real world google searches, and the resulting comments weren't great.

So for this dark, smutty story, I initially placed it in the anon com, so that I wouldn't need to archive-lock it, so nonnies could read, but also if it escaped to google it wouldn't be linked to my name. But I kinda want to claim it and archive-lock it.

So, how common is it that people read smut while logged out of the archive, and that archive-locking it would kill it for you?

Re: How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

[(Anonymous)]

I think the majority of people who read smut don’t care. The only time anon stories are avoided are usually in fandoms that are wanky (hockey fandom used to have spitefics gifted to people outside of exchanges just to troll), or have a lot of antis or have newbiews who don’t trust anon.

That said, it sounds like you may as well sock up?