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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2025-10-26 01:46 pm
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One Wank After Another

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
people really should be required to THINK THROUGH their dnws

like at least a "its okay to mention people who were broken/driven insane by rape" caveat would help

or "its okay to mention past rape/past atteompts/fears of rape"

but no people blanket dnw and dont consider how it makes literally half the characters ipmpsibble to even bring up

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Of 409 Black Jewels fics on AO3, only 34 of them are tagged rape/non-con, so it seems like some writers are capable of managing this. Honey.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
youre a condescending brain-dead idiot

many of those fics refewrence canonical rape, you fuckhead, which doesnt require the rape/noncon warning

the third fic for example which is the first that isn't some osrt of crossover

is all about canonical character death (another dnw) (and incest, another dnw) and 90% of the conversation is "im sorry i didnt save you from sex slavery"

fir number four has incest again (anotehr dnw) and oh, guess what

canonical character deathja agfain

aaaand it contains references to sex slavery past again

sex skills gained during sex slavery

nickname earned during sex slavery

references to abuse (gosh, another dnw) and how daemon used to blend pleasure/pain during his sex slave days to hurt his rapists as much as he could

but gee, because tehres no rape/noncon label it must totally not be referencing rape at all, huh!

five has rape noncon label

six has rapenonon label agaoin

7 is literally tagged dubious consent

8 has literally the sentence "with the few queens left unbroken" in the summary, which is a reference to rape

which anyone who has read the canon would know

do i need to go on?

so no othjer üpeople are not "managing"

other people arent even tryimg

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
wtf is going on with your keyboard?

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
have to typ in the dark becaise idont want to wake roonates

sorry

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
dc

I'm sorry you don't even have a screen or can't read what you've typed. :(

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
try writng in the dark, hitting retun is a crapshot

seroiply half the time i hit * or ´insted and makee it worse

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
cyrt

I can type with my eyes closed so I'd be fine thanks.

You'd have better luck convincing people if you stopped posting gibberish, didn't call people fuckheads like you're the toughest little teenager out there, and actually stopped to consider that other coalies might have a point.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
nah im allowed to call a condescneding asshole a condscneding asshole

ohh ohhh i looked at the ao3 tag for the book nd theres only a handful of rape fics!!! clwarly this means its eaaaaasy to avoid any and all references to the tons of canonical rape!!!

that coalie had no point exceot to be an asshole

like i said i looked at the first ten fics, two were crossover, one was a suicidal origoinal character and the others all contained a fuckton of references to canonical rape. to be clear, the crossovers and the suicidal orignal charaxter might have contained rape refs too, i just didnt check those

That coalie was extremely wrong.

okay, lets play: how do you propose to avoid any hint of rape when pretty much everything abotu every character is because of rape or at least influenced by rape?

even karlas hair style is because of the trhreat of rape. she had to live with her uncle, who murdered her parents, and he wanted to rapoe her so she chopped off her hair to make herslef less appealing. and jeanelle couldnt help her because jeanelle was in a three-year sort of coma durin that time because shed gotten raped. and before that jeanelle was in and out of a mental institue that was a front for pedos to rape mentally unstable girls

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
"like honey how tf did you read those books"

Welp, guess you're a condescending asshole.

Instead of this unhinged hissyfit here, ask mods to relay a question whether they mean onscreen rape or absolutely no mentions, nothing rape-related implied whatsoever, not even hairdos(!). Or ignore the requests you can't work with and move the fuck on. You know, like a normal functioning adult would.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
... why would you make up fake quotes when the post you replied is right there?

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you ever wanted to write a treat tbh I think you just wanted to complain about all the ways you think the letter writers are silly little fools.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
coalie are you drunk

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I imagine rapenonon with a bit of a French accent.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
That's a lot of words to say that you can't be bothered thinking outside the box.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
ahev you read the books? no? then don#t comment how easy you thinj it is to aboid the main conincal themes that influence luterally all the charcters actions and form most of their backstories and even ncknames and everytjing

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
I mean do they sound like someone who'd be capable of doing that anyway?

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
That is a good point.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
They sound to me like someone who finds fuzzy rules very frustrating, so they set themselves rules that are more extreme than the most practical versions of the fuzzy rules, on the basis that they might be going to more effort to stay within the strict rules, but at least it won't cause any social difficulties.

Then they forget (or get high or brood on it while hangry or or or) that those rules are self-imposed, not external, and get mad at other people for supposedly putting them in a situation where they'll have to break rules.

Ie:

Angry coalie: DNWs are vague and situational, the rule I'll follow for myself is "no mentions of the Bad Thing whatsoever, no allusions to plot points that depend on the Bad Thing, write as if Bad Thing didn't and doesn't happen"

Recipient: No rape/incest (for a canon steeped in rape and incest, where every single character's backstory contains some and so do many of their ongoing plots)

Angry coalie: You're making me break the rules!!

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
OK that's going a little too far into psychoanalysis

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Angry coalie put themselves in that situation by contemplating treating someone whose DNWs didn't work for them and throwing a hissy fit rather than just saying "that doesn't work for me as a treater, moving on."

But then, what are we all here for, if not the hissy fits?

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
okay once again more cogerent

fics in black jewels in oirder

furst fic: crossover, not allowed

sevond: crossover, no allowed

third; mentions of caoncal rape, incest, canon character desth, no alkowed

foru: same as aboe

figth: rape noncon tag, not allowed

six; rape nobcon tag, not alloqwd

seven: tagged dub con incest torture, not akkowed

eight: few queens left unbroken which is reference to rape in the summary, not allwed

none: crossover. not alloed

ten: self harm, suicice attemts and i#m not gonna read 40k of original character ansgst to see if tehres rape

so NONE of the first ten fics in the black jewels cat would be okay foir this request, you smug fucker

id bet mosr of the rest of the tag is the same

so no, other writers ar noit "capable of managing this" theyy aret even tryunb

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
DC

While I agree that there's not a lot of Black Jewel fics out there that don't rely on those tropes and that it's very common for them not to be tagged for mentions of its canonical usage, at the same time, even the books themselves aren't non-stop noncon. I'm not saying the story would be long or amazing, but you could definitely write 1000 words of two characters bonding over a shared interest or doing something magical or celebrating some event in a village without having to mention, oh yeah, and this character was raped. (I've already found several fics that could work with maybe a sentence or two taken out at most, and at least one past gift already written for one of the requesters that they enjoyed with those limitations.)

DNWing a tag is not the same as DNWing a character. You can mention Tersa without having to go into details on what made her that way - no one's pulling a Inigo Montoya and running around, proclaiming their backstory to everyone they meet. Like I get being frustrated that people are DNWing things that are pretty prevalent in both canon and fandom, especially if those are the only requests, but seriously, it's not as impossible as you make it seem. But if you think the only way to write a story for this fandom is to violate a DNW, then it's definitely best that you don't create anything for these requests.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
This response is glorious.

I can't wait to see how OC loses their shit over it.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
I only use an archive warning if the topic appears on page rather than a reference to canon circumstance, but that's not how I'd handle a DNW.

(I also never use the rape archive warning. It's all CNTW.)