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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2025-10-26 01:46 pm
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One Wank After Another

A blank assignment is a funny thing, isn't it? When you have it, you don't appreciate it, and when you miss it, it's gone.


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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
borh of the people who request black jewels dnw rape and incest

like honey how tf did you read those books

one of them dnws humiliation, child abuse, torture, brain washing/mind control too

like how do you request a canon and then dnw most of the canon?

how exactly do you expect someone to write about jaenelle and karla, who bonded over their creepy uncles wanted to rape them, when you aren't allowed to mention incest or rape? these themes are super important to both characters and literally formed their personakities

how is worldbuilding supposed to happen, if basoically all the canon things are no go?

it would make sense to dnw graphic, on screen rape

but not to dnw the topic entirely because how ??? rape is present from quite literally the prologue onward

almost all characters have some degree of it in their backstories

like are we supposed to ignore every character who can't do magic because they were raped?

are we supposed to ignore every character who is mentally unstable/in the twisted kingdom because they were raped?

you cannot even MENTION Tersa, because she's crazy and unable to wear a jewel becaue of rape

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
people really should be required to THINK THROUGH their dnws

like at least a "its okay to mention people who were broken/driven insane by rape" caveat would help

or "its okay to mention past rape/past atteompts/fears of rape"

but no people blanket dnw and dont consider how it makes literally half the characters ipmpsibble to even bring up

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Of 409 Black Jewels fics on AO3, only 34 of them are tagged rape/non-con, so it seems like some writers are capable of managing this. Honey.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
youre a condescending brain-dead idiot

many of those fics refewrence canonical rape, you fuckhead, which doesnt require the rape/noncon warning

the third fic for example which is the first that isn't some osrt of crossover

is all about canonical character death (another dnw) (and incest, another dnw) and 90% of the conversation is "im sorry i didnt save you from sex slavery"

fir number four has incest again (anotehr dnw) and oh, guess what

canonical character deathja agfain

aaaand it contains references to sex slavery past again

sex skills gained during sex slavery

nickname earned during sex slavery

references to abuse (gosh, another dnw) and how daemon used to blend pleasure/pain during his sex slave days to hurt his rapists as much as he could

but gee, because tehres no rape/noncon label it must totally not be referencing rape at all, huh!

five has rape noncon label

six has rapenonon label agaoin

7 is literally tagged dubious consent

8 has literally the sentence "with the few queens left unbroken" in the summary, which is a reference to rape

which anyone who has read the canon would know

do i need to go on?

so no othjer üpeople are not "managing"

other people arent even tryimg

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry to derail because I can see you're really going through something here, but I read the typo "personakities" as persona kitties and immediately concluded there was a Black Jewels furry sequel and now I'm really going through something here.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
the tigre already exist!

actually i think the last book i read was setting deamonar up with a sapphire tigre girl

maybe

possibly

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have good news for you about Anne Bishop's World of the Others...

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I would assume they meant that they don't want an on-screen occurrence of incest or rape and that they didn't think that they needed to specify that.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
yes well thats possible but they didnt say that and im not gojna write them a treat abd thgen get banned frm yuketide because i assumed the logical thing

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
I would not assume that lol. I might ask through the mods but that's a horrible assumption to make.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like fishspeakers, fyi. You may want to work on that.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
whp?

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Hi fishspeakers.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
Butt OUT fishspeakers, almost nothing is about you

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Karla wins and gets to rule over her realm of Glacia. Jaenelle is supreme ruler as Witch for her mortal lifespan. Karla adopts Della; she can cantankerously but lovingly vent to Jaenelle about the difficulties of raising a spirited daughter and were we ever like that? YES WE WERE WORSE.

Or: Karla fucking adores Jaenelle and there is plenty of hints of an unrequited crush. Do pining. A time when Karla got to ride to Jaenelle's aid in a tricky conflict (could be 100% martial or political, doesn't have to be rape.)

Karla has a perfectly long life AFTER she deals with her rapist uncle, it's pretty insulting to imply that everything else in her life has to be about dealing with rapists, same with Jaenelle.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
Very funny.

Yes, all these things happen too... and YOU try to write about any of them without mentioning anything that implies that rape exists in canon. Go on, I dare you.

It's niot "everything has to be about the rapists", it's that it's nearly impossible to avoid anything that references or implies past rape/rape threats/rape backstory.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
Btw, you shouldn't write child fic for someone who hasn't requested it. Della isnt a requsted character.

Not to mention that Della's very existejnce breaks the canonical character death DNW, because she's only available to adopt because her mother and her whole village died in a plot to take down Karla... the same plot that killed Morton, in case you forgot. You can't mention Della for someone who dnws canonical character deaths. Yeah, sure, you can assume that they pribably mean Jaenelle or Saetans death, and are fine witb Morton and a bunch of no-name vilagers, but you can't actualy know that because, again, they didn't specify.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for acknowledging that rape survivors don't have to be constantly dealing with it forever! I mean, yeah, I have PTSD, but I also have cats and a partner and a career and, you know, a life not wholly defined by one person who tried to make it really shitty for me.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Or: Karla fucking adores Jaenelle and there is plenty of hints of an unrequited crush. Do pining. A time when Karla got to ride to Jaenelle's aid in a tricky conflict (could be 100% martial or political, doesn't have to be rape.)

Now I wish I'd requested it, damn. These are delightful prompts.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
I would wonder if you were doing a bit to give us some Real Drama (TM) but I feel it would be too much effort to up the awful typing on purpose.

Please drink some water.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
They probably just mean they don't want a gift fic that has Rape/Noncon as an archive warning/actual fic content. They probably didn't think there was anything wrong with this kind of DNW because the idea that idea that allusions, mentions or canon-typical themes are DNW-violating isn't actually that universal.

I agree that this is the kind of assignment that would make me reach out to clarify how the recip feels about canon-typical background elements. But making such a big deal about how the recips didn't think through their DNWs makes you look like an ass.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Coalie I want to side with you - it is annoying as hell when people dnw something fundamental to the canon/prompts and don't bother to clarify at all, and every time I've asked through mods about something like that the answer has been oh, oops, that dnw doesn't apply to that fandom, I forgot it was there, which: ugh

But you are making it very very very hard to side with you.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-29 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Relatable complaint, asshole way to both express it and argue for it.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
This thread is making me glad I didn't bitch about the person requesting Eleanor, Henry and Richard from the Lion in Winter and DNW familial abuse.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they enjoy the canon but want to see something different for the characters they like. You don't have to talk about their backgrounds. Not every moment of every story has to talk about their experiences with rape, incest, etc.

I can this being a frustrating DNW, but you act like it's impossible while also being condescending as hell.