Offseason #4

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Disjunction Junction finally got booted from the discord today

[(Anonymous)]

The mods were very patient, but it was time.

Re: Disjunction Junction finally got booted from the discord today

[(Anonymous)]

ho shit nice! is there any drama to backread?

[(Anonymous)]

off season on season butts are for all season

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks for this

[(Anonymous)]

Re: the one Candy Hearts pinch hit that has one fandom with NO characters or pairings or additional details nominated, and very VERY minimal vague DNWs... would you REALLY be happy with anything at all?? really???? look DEEP within yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Give 'em clussy. The world needs moar clussy.

[(Anonymous)]

if like me you are curious and can't stand being cockteased, the candy hearts author who sharted out three total clunkers for mimm is lkmk

[(Anonymous)]

Oh come on, this is easy to find out but we don't have to name them.

[(Anonymous)]

https://swingandswirl.dreamwidth.org/274286.html

this person is...a lot

[(Anonymous)]

I was expecting it to be a lot worse than it was, but it's true there are a lot of confusing and unhelpful sections in that. The formatting is difficult to read, but even if it were much more neatly organized I would struggle with things like preferring to treat all MCU past a certain point as noncanonical except that "Bits and pieces of canon after the 2012 Avengers are okay", and YAY to nonwestern perspectives but AVOID anything about colonialism, and DNW of certain characters "except if necessary", and no bashing of settings/characters while the letter itself bashes them.

At least there's some enthusiasm for what they do like.

IT's MARCH FFS

[(Anonymous)]

Why isn't it Yuletide yet?

Re: IT's MARCH FFS

[(Anonymous)]

Have you chosen which fandoms to nominate?

IT's APRIL FFS

[(Anonymous)]

GIMME MY FIC ALREADY

Re: IT's APRIL FFS

[(Anonymous)]

Have you chosen which fandoms?

[(Anonymous)]

i name butt fandoms

[(Anonymous)]

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Smut4Smut

[(Anonymous)]

So who got noncon for S4S when they requested No Archive Warnings Apply?

Re: Smut4Smut

[(Anonymous)]

Trying to triangulate.

It's almost May

[(Anonymous)]

Almost.

IT's MAY FFS

[(Anonymous)]

Why isn't it Yuletide yet?

*deep breath*

[(Anonymous)]

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Re: *deep breath*

[(Anonymous)]

Coalie?

Why isn't it Yuletide yet?

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

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IT'S JUNE

[(Anonymous)]

June.

Re: IT'S JUNE

[(Anonymous)]

When is it gonna Yuletide?

why do I even bother with exchanges

[(Anonymous)]

who writes fluff for a hurt/comfort exchange? It's not technically poor enough to protest to the mods, but I can't help feeling let down.

Re: why do I even bother with exchanges

[(Anonymous)]

Clearly, the answer is to stop bothering with exchanges and just do Yuletide.

Evidence for author of racist college football fic?

[(Anonymous)]

Wank recap:
https://coaltide.dreamwidth.org/6480.html?thread=13044048#cmt13044048

The original thread on coal where someone claiming to be the author showed up to defend it
https://coaltide.dreamwidth.org/6150.html?thread=13011206#cmt13011206

Gheyn's comments on the recent OTW news post, describing their hurt feelings, and advocating to keep racist fic because if it's banned noncon and underage will be next
https://archiveofourown.org/comments/660555085
https://archiveofourown.org/comments/660556447
https://archiveofourown.org/comments/660570196


"I hope that AO3 will never implement bans based on the morality of content. It may not be pleasant to encounter racism in works, but if we use that as grounds for banning them, then underage and noncon will be next to go. That, and works written by people like my grandmother in rural China who is racist in a commonplace way in her town. The idea of English-speakers telling large swaths of rural China what is and isn't acceptable. . . that doesn't sit right with me."

"I am talking about the manifesto which began by listing works the manifesto's author doesn't like. My comment is entirely about one part of the manifesto. I do not know enough about how things work internally, which is why I have no opinion on that part of the protest."

"Look, this really hurts my feelings. I have never reported anyone to ToS for harrassment, and I have no intention to. It makes me very sad that you're making a false (and personal!) accusation against me."

"My grandmother is Chinese. I am Chinese. Using Sinophobia would be if I wanted people to cast out the Chinese users. I expect people to sympathize with Chinese people who live in a town where everyone is Chinese, and who think it's normal to say "don't marry people of X race." These are not people who are hateful, but rather, they are people who are ordinary. I want people to think about how their proposed policies on content would affect these people.

I am making the slippery slope argument because any argument against allowing racism in works will then be applied to underage and noncon. It will resemble someone's real-life experiences. It will upset some users to read. Some works will portray underage and noncon as being hot. If we ban racism in works, on the grounds that it's harmful, well, how is it harmful? The arguments I see most often are that it normalizes racist behavior, either by exposing people to it so they are less shocked, or by making people think it's ok. These same arguments can be applied to underage and noncon too.

If you have a different argument, for why racism in fictional works is different from underage and noncon, feel free to make it! Preferably without wording like "don't you dare" though. :/"

Re: Evidence for author of racist college football fic?

[(Anonymous)]

What does that have to do with the football fic author? I am honestly puzzled.

[(Anonymous)]

dunno if there even will be a yuletide this year as ao3 is gonna die soon

[(Anonymous)]

Come on, coalie, be a little more dramatic. I believe you can do it.

Say instead: everyone should back up their works and gifts RIGHT NOW because there'll be a mass exodus by August.

[(Anonymous)]

ao3 aint dead go lick a butt instead

Nom nom nom

[(Anonymous)]

So have you figured out your Yuletide nominations yet?

Re: Nom nom nom

[(Anonymous)]

butts

if everyone leave ao3

[(Anonymous)]

how will yuletide go

Re: if everyone leave ao3

[(Anonymous)]

Elsewhere

It's July FFS

[(Anonymous)]

Juletide, anyone?

Re: It's July FFS

[(Anonymous)]

July means it's almost Yuletide.

This is not a drill. This is not a bot.

[(Anonymous)]

There will never be another Yuletide. It has been eaten by a duck.

Re: This is not a drill. This is not a bot.

[(Anonymous)]

Everybody say quack!

LISTEN UP BITCHES

[(Anonymous)]

I'M WRITING STALIN ON A03

AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME

Re: LISTEN UP BITCHES

[(Anonymous)]

are you using up one of your yt noms for stalin fic?

[(Anonymous)]

Since AO3 has been scraped by AI, people are having chatGPT write fics for them and AO3's officially approved of AI usage...

How many people do you think will sign up for Yuletide 2023, coalies??

[(Anonymous)]

i'm just wondering how many ai fics will be written for yuletide