Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
So ... are they done wrangling new fandoms or what? Last year the mods couldn't be bothered to compile a list of them and just added a brief ETA on an existing post, and this year they apparently can't even be bothered to do that. I thought the comment Morbane made about how getting fic written for new fandoms was one of ~Yuletide's goals~ rang very false, and that goes double now.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually still waiting for one of mine to be wrangled. I was in the group of coalies who said that even waiting a couple of hours was too much and would mean people missed the fics, and three days...well. It genuinely makes me consider not writing for unwrangled fandoms again - which obviously stinks, and shouldn't be what YT inspires one to do.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
+1 on still waiting for a wrangle, but unfortunately my hipster brain is just going to keep doing this.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
so 3 days later they are still not done?! wtf, there is no reason for it to take that long, especially when they promise yt fics are on the fasttrack.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone who falls for this year after year is playing themselves lol.

Whatever fandom you think you may write for, you need to post something for it during ToT. And even that is a 50/50 odds of it being up by Yuletide.

Jojo Rabbit is a high profile canon with 4 fics in it dating back to early Nov and it's still unwrangled: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Jojo%20Rabbit%20(2019)

The few wranglers with mod approved canonizing powers are stretched thin/lazy, the rest of the wranglers can't risk canonizing shit without being yelled at, and there is a backlog that keeps getting bigger. Your Yuletide fandom with a fic ~1 month old is not on their radar.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yes, I'm well aware of this. Last unwrangled fandom I wrote for on AO3 took over three months to get a canonical tag, and I also know hhertzof put a stop to that whole drabble trick for no valid reason. But my point was that they claim Yuletide fics get prioritized and dealt with quickly, like Morbane said in that post I quoted. So it should indeed be on their radar, because that's literally what they're telling everyone.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, they stopped the drabble thing? Why?

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Abuse of power, pettiness, sheer dickishness... take your pick.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
The fic wrote for me was the first fic in an unwrangled fandom, and it was wrangled before I woke up and read the fic after reveals.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, gotta plan ahead. I have to admit, I wrote for the Be The First challenge with an eye towards Yuletide & getting the fandom tag wrangled. I think a lot of the fandoms in that challenge got wrangled fairly quickly, with only a few stray ones taking longer a month (including mine).

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's a clever idea!

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they try really hard to get them all but sometimes one will slip through the cracks. I wrote stories for five new fandoms, mine's the only story in all of them, and four were wrangled within an hour or two. The fifth took until the next morning, late, but still less than twelve hours. It was the last one posted, so I guess they hadn't done whatever prep work is necessary or something, I don't know. I was pleasantly surprised since I'd heard so much about how it wasn't going to happen.

I'd email if any of them were still unwrangled. Can't hurt.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
AO3 support is known for taking 3+ months to reply, so I feel like it CAN hurt in terms of frustration. Especially considering that their replies tend to be both unhelpful and rude.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I always feel like they're rude, too! I can never put my finger on what exactly about it comes across as rude, though.

...I guess it does frequently seem like they don't actually read my whole goddamn email, though.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
NC: The last response I got from support about a wrangling problem (6 months later) was pretty clearly c&p'ed to everyone who had written in about the issue.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
I also gotta say that synning Yuletide-eligible subfandoms to ineligible larger fandoms is weird. Like, the point is to be able to find the smaller fandoms.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
As much as I don't think AO3 is currently doing a very good job wrangling fandoms, I don't think they should be considering Yuletide eligibility when they're making wrangling decisions.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
But they should be considering whether the fandom will be findable. If it's not findable because it's synned to a bigger fandom, it's wrangled ineffectively.

AYRT used YT-eligible and YT-ineligible as descriptors for this scenario, not suggestions for the wranglers.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
If the fandoms should be synned then they should be. Fics in larger fandoms aren’t “unfindable.” It they shouldn’t be synned then they shouldn’t be, but not because of the sizes.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you can't find them by searching fandom tags because they've been synned to another fandom, they're not.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-29 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Given that plus synning others to just Original Works or RPF, it's pretty clear that wranglers don't give a shit about small fandoms.

Re: Unwrangled Fandoms?

(Anonymous) 2019-12-28 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I wrote for three unwrangled fandoms but they all seem to be wrangled now. Granted, one did syn with another tag (and kept the worse version of the tag, imo) but at least it's done.