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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2019-11-05 04:27 am
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It was the Coal of Times

It was the best of assignments, it was the worst of assignments, it was the age of gaming your offers, it was the age of forgetting to remove that one fandom from your offers, it was the epoch of treat writing, it was the epoch of apocapinch-hits, it was the season of fics of your dreams, it was the season of explicit DNW spitefic, it was the spring of hope that the anon in the comment above is writing for you, it was the winter of ars_belli is your author.

Prompts revealed and Madness opens: Approx 9 November
Default deadline: 11 December, 9am UTC
Assignment deadline: 18 December, 9am UTC
Main Collection Reveals: 25 December (time tba)

Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. Fail_fandom wiki for wank history.
 

Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
https://callmesandyk.dreamwidth.org/1970886.html

Never in a million years would I give a cancer fic, but never in a million years would I write for a recipient who seems this fucking crazy.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Unrelated, but their DNW ordering of "first person, vore, bdsm" reads like a prompt bingo to my mind. First person vore BDSM. I'm gonna be thinking about how to make this work for one of my ships all day.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I genuinely don't see the problem with this? I remember that this person got cancer fic last year and I felt terrible for them. This year they're just making extra special sure that no one writes anything that's going to interact with personal tragedy in their life.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they sound crazy.

But this kind of situation is the reason I include no surprise diseases as a DNW. A friend of mine years ago got her favorite character's death story because she'd neglected to put no major character death in her DNW. Amazing what some people think is a good gift story.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
They got out-of-the-blue unrequested cancer fic last year. Honestly, I think it's understandable that they'd be a bit paranoid about it this round.

And yeah, they probably should have DNW'd it -- but the thing is, a lot of times you don't realize you need to until it happens.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
There's no reason to not DNW.

But man, you don't need to go on for an entire paragraph about how much your last Yuletide fic ruined your entire fucking life because it wasn't something you wanted.

And yes, their writer was a dick for giving cancer fic without asking, but jfc, it was a case of "they sure did deserve each other, huh."

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
They don't seem crazy to me, just someone who got their Yuletide ruined in an awful way last year and in a fit of emotion & bad judgment vented too much in this year's letter. Grief combined with getting unrequested cancer fic can easily push someone to act less calm and rational about it.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
+1, I don't think there's anything wrong with the venting in the beginning of the letter and I don't think they're a shitty person at all. But I did lol at that long list of DNWs and then "I like things too! (lists four very generic things)"

I hope they get a feel-good fic out of their Yuletide to make up for last year.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I can empathise; forgetting to DNW something that very few people are likely to write and then getting hit with that DNW in your gift would suck. I'm more worried about the Titans prompt, where she requested the comics then says she's not at all familiar, and goes on to talk exclusively about the show.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
...coalie, she requested the show.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Did she request the comics though? she's in the app for the show.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
After what happened last year I don't blame her, OAC.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
She had a shitty year. Join the club.

She sounds like a shitty person all together, though. There's a way to say "DNW cancer fic because it hits home personally" without a paragraph about how your writer ruined your whole life.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
they would like they've had an absoultely shit year

I added them to my "people to treat" list for some curtainfic where nothing bad happens and everyone is happy

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
You're a good egg, coalie. Hope the writing flows smoothly!

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Good on you, coalie! They're on my try-to-treat list too, along with the other people who got a raw deal last year.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's anything wrong with this. They had one of several asshole writers last year, and I can't blame them for still feeling upset. Ditto if any of the others who got massively screwed over last year says anything similar, and I hope they all get treats this year to make up for last year's clusterfuck.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, tjs_whatnot absolutely fucked up in writing that fic, and the recip has every reason to be gunshy.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
This is such an uncharitable reading of the relevant section of this person's letter that I'm going to copy and paste it, just so people can judge for themselves whether or not the author seems "fucking crazy":

Last year I didn't say I don't want a story with cancer, and I got one so I could spend all Xmas day thinking about my close family member who had breast cancer. And this year has been a real shit sandwich for me, like more than one bereavement leave shit sandwich. I already have emotionally fraught plans for Xmas day so I just want to be super duper crystal clear because I actually will not be able to take any kind repeat of last year. So please no death, no mourning, no funerals, no cancer. No terminal diseases. I do not want, please.

This is also only a small part of the full letter, which is full of great stuff that I'd love to treat.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you so personally offended by it, and why are you the only person who seems to be?

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone defending this sounds like a chronic oversharer with no social boundaries.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
I was tempted to go on a similar rant in my letter. Because like this recip, I also got a DNW (but no apology or acknowledgement).

So yeah, I'm still mad. Unresolved issues! But I just updated my DNW section to be even more clear, with bolding, and did not say why.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
"(I know I'm a bundle of fun. Sorry you got me! Sorry poor pinch hitter reading this now!)"

So does the recip go here?

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
I understand their frustration, but I just do not want to know about the personal life of randos I'm going to write fic for, which is why this letter is somewhat uncomfortable for me - even if I understand this situation in particular very well because boy oh boy could I write a lot about cancer ruining this and several others years I had. Idk, maybe it's cultural differences and whatever, but it's just a weird thing to me to broadcast my general mood and how my year went and that someone I'm close to has/had breast cancer to people I don't even know while in namespace (but then, I also never got into the whole journal culture). The comment on the fic they got last year isn't even what bothers me. I guess everyone has their own boundaries there about how much privacy they wanna keep. Personally, I'd have just DNWed it.

Re: Well, you sound like a bundle of issues that I'm glad I don't have

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Having matched on them previously I think they need to strike a better medium. Over share, yeah but their DNWs are clear, in the letter I matched on implied all of those new DNWs in their likes which was kind of annoying since some of them they obviously DNW but weren’t saying and some I was guessing they DNW but I had a much better idea how to write them something they would like if I had matched in any other fandom than the one I did.

Like this one they have a tendency of writing one sentence for the fandom where I would like to know most how to handle their DNWs.