One Wank After Another

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A blank assignment is a funny thing, isn't it? When you have it, you don't appreciate it, and when you miss it, it's gone.

Wednesday 10 December: Default deadline (9pm UTC)
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

1. It sounds like the main issue here is that you didn't properly read your recip's sign-up until a week before the deadline and now it's too late to ask the mods. (No judgment - most of us have been there ... but also not the recip's fault).

2. Since I always advocate for clarifying DNWs, I will also say that this is a case where I myself would probably add a note to specify what this means for this canon.

3. That being said, "genderswap" is a trope you as the fan creator apply to canon characters. If I "DNW: coffee shop AU", that doesn't mean you are not allowed to mention coffee shops in your fic, especially if they are canonical coffee shops. It means I don't want you to turn characters who are FBI agents in canon into coffee shop owners without any previous law enforcement background.

[(Anonymous)]

I do not dispute you on 1 (or 2. 2 is exactly my point.)

3. You'd be right if they'd DNW'd gender AUs but they didn't. If someone DNWs coffeshops for Friends and you set the whole fic in Central Perk it's still a DNW even if it's fully canon compliant.

[(Anonymous)]

da

But "coffeeshops" is not a fixed trope, it's just a setting. "Genderswap" is a trope, though, and writing the character's canon gender identity is just not included in the trope.

What you're doing is the equivalent of handwringing over "DNW: only one bed" and mentioning a character owning a house that has only a single bedrooms.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the disagreement is that is what is going on in canon is not "mention of one bed". It's two characters are canonically trapped together in a Canadian shack with only one cot in a snowstorm and have to huddle for warmth for all of canon.

Like yes, genderswap is a trope, but canon can be tropey. These characters are using genderswap tropes. (Also, even if they weren't, for DNWs you don't actually get to say "yes I wrote the thing they don't want, but not in a trope-y way!”)

Like nobody has yet articulated how "character who swaps from one binary gender to the other because magic" and "character is just like original character, but the female version from another universe" aren't exactly the tropes, except by saying it's ok because it's canon. (Given what this canon is tbh they're likely part of what originated the tropes in old slash fandom.)

[(Anonymous)]

Is it a character swaps from one binary gender to the other through magic, because that's very different to a character being genderfluid, which was what was originally said in this thread. A canonically genderfluid character can be written without violating the DNW, so long as you write them as being genderfluid.

Female character from another universe is canonically female, so writing her as that does not violate the DNW.

[(Anonymous)]

What was originally said was "canonically magically genderfluid", which wasn't super-specific but is definitely not saying the character is just the normal modern kind of genderfluid. Seems pretty clear that it's going to involve the character changing from one gender to another due to magic, what with the magic.

I don't think anyone argued in this thread that writing the character as female would be a DNW violation, but that going into detail about her relationships to her counterpart or focusing on her backstory might, since those do presumably come pretty close to common genderswap tropes.

[(Anonymous)]

At first I thought OP was being overly conscientious here but really, none of us know what the recipient means by “DNW genderswap” and it could absolutely be the canon stuff we’re talking about here. I agree the biggest mistake was just not reading the signup until too close to gamble on getting timely clarification (also no judgment, would totally do that myself), and OP is right to just start writing a story that doesn’t touch on the DNW at all because better safe than sorry. Or maybe ask for clarification now and start writing if you don’t hear back in 24 hours.

[(Anonymous)]

+1