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Morbane's coal

In quantum wankchanics, Morbane's coal is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, of quantum wankerposition. In the thought experiment, a hypothetical gift may be considered simultaneously both the fic of your dreams (TFOYD) and coal, while it is unread state, as a result of its fate being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.

The Coaltide interpretation implies that, after a while, the gift is simultaneously TFOYD and coal. Yet, when a coalie clicks on their gift, the coalie sees the gift either TFOYD or coal, not both TFOYD and coal. This poses the question of when exactly quantum wankerposition ends and reality resolves into one possibility or the other.

Madness Opens: Tuesday 26 December
Author Reveals: Monday 1 January

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Was feeling kind of down about my fic but KHR is apparently holding strong at 30% woo

me: Kingdom Hearts Requiem? Katekyou Hitman Reborn? OHHHHH

I feel like it’s a crapshoot (or maybe your highbrow fandoms are not what I’m thinking of as highbrow fandoms). I’ve had fic of all shades and it’s really been not correlated to the type of fandom. Maybe if I got into Jane Austen?

My author - as I had somewhat already suspected - is the same person who wrote for me the last time I received this fandom. And while what they end up writing is fine, we're never going to be a really good match because they only write very gen gen while I'm over here just wanting one (1) quality getting together fic for my pairing. I know there are other people out there who ship it, some of whom even do Yuletide, but the gods of Yuletide haven't seen fit to bring us together...and a future of writing appropriately enthusiastic comments on their genuine efforts when we keep matching every time I request this fandom makes me just want to stop asking for it. *sigh*

/bratty

cyrt

Fandom was less public back then and more scattered, yes, with lots of smaller single-fandom and media type archives, but it's not like I had less fic to pick from in 1999 or 2004 and than I have in 2023. Though I suppose that depends on what kind of fandoms you're in.

Like in yt 2004 or 2005 I probably knew about half the nominated fandoms and was interested in half the rest

I think for me, the number of fandoms I knew stayed the same over the years. When I go through the fandom list, I still see lots of movies and books and some theatre and RPF where I have the same initial "oh, I'm familiar with that" reaction. The difference - and this is clearly very subjective - is that in 2004, this reaction was followed by "I'll check the fic out!" whereas now it's usually followed by "... but I don't feel fannish about it" and I scroll further. Mid-2000s me was committed reading everything in an exchange where I vaguely knew the canon. 2023 me doesn't have the time and energy anymore for anything that I don't already have a strong fannish investment in (fandoms, as well as ships and tropes).

26%. It was 100% for a while before author reveals, because it had precisely two hits and two kudos, LOL.

I'm sorry, coalie, that sucks.

Are you giving gen-outs or indicating that you're excited to receive gen?

That's nice.

My favorite is when the second person slips in a kudos before the hit count updates so you have 2 kudos/1 hit and you briefly become GOD KING OF AO3.

Wow. Doesn’t look like a sock, so there goes my Troll Making An Untherius Joke theory

I thought this terrible fic I hated might be FS, turns out it's just some rando that doesn't comment on their gifts. A different type of asshole.

The stories are archived numerically like on AO3. Ex: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12345678. The newest fic is numbered over 14 million which means over 14 million fics have been posted to ff.net.

cyrt

oh, I absolutely am - partly because it's an entirely gen kids' canon and I do genuinely enjoy the source material, so 'more like that' has the potential to be a happy Yuletide surprise. It's just this author, I think, who doesn't have quite a deft enough touch to make what could be entirely canon content live up to canon. Thus why I'm calling this bratty.

(I said it was okay! They wrote to one of my prompts! In the hands of a better writer, I might have even been thrilled to receive a similar story! But they're not that writer...)

DA

I'm not sure what that kind of data proves? Especially since AFAIK the numbers are unique, so if a fic gets deleted, the number won't be reused.

CYRT

I was replying to:

"the largest archives in 2004 had tens of thousands of fic (maybe a couple hundred thousand for Gossamer and FA and ff.net"

FF.net was much bigger than the coalie seemed to think. The data points are that even in 2004, there were millions of fics archived there.

cyrt

I get what you mean, and obviously you should approach this as you want. I'm just responding to your "I'm over here just wanting one (1) quality getting together fic for my pairing", which resonates a lot with me, and in my experience, the only way to receive it is to explicitly ask for it. Still not a guarantee in Yuletide, obviously, but if you have a ton of prompts including several gen prompts and a single "get together" prompt for your ship, statistically the chance to receive the latter is lower than if you simply said "for this fandom, I would like get-together fic for my pairing" without explicitly asking for anything else.

In your stead, I'd probably try that before dropping the fandom altogether, but it's a very YMMV situation.

AYRT

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood the point you were making!

dc

Would it help to leave gushing comments on the fics of the other people who write that fandom and nudge them in the direction of treating you next time?

I wonder about this. I am mostly in older fandoms (I guess as far as I’m “in” any fandoms?), and I guess there’s probably a slightly better ratio of good fic to bad fic but really, i think that the secret is that I’m no longer to give every fic published a try and I only try a story if I think it looks actually good. So I kind of mentally filter out the badfic.

32% for one
27% for the other

I think you’re onto something with this, even outside a Yuletide context. My old canons have tons of really excellent fic, but fandom activity is crickets - meanwhile my beloved recent TV canon has a million fans, tons of fic posted daily, and as far as I can tell 99% of it is hot garbage. Statistically this doesn’t make any sense!

It makes perfect sense imo. The people who are still writing in fandoms that were hot 20 years ago have had 20 years of practice with writing in general and those characters in particular. The fic they still put out is going to be better than people with limited writing practice posting constantly.

Also, when people move fandom platforms, they often don't port over fics they aren't proud of anymore- so bad fic from the before times tends to get left behind and only the better fic by each person brought to a new platform.

20% — which seems to be smack in the middle for this fandom this yuletide. The runaway “success” fic that’s been rec’d a lot has about 30%.

Hovered around 12% during the anon period but shot up to 20% after reveals. It's not the kind of fandom the reccers read, and the people in the fandom tag are very suspicious of anon fic. The other fic in the fandom had a higher kudos ratio, but I had more comments, so it felt about even.

Rounded, 12% and 17%. One is a tiny fandom even for YT (my recip guessed it was me since I hadn’t kudosed it), so it makes sense it hasn’t had much attention (hits numbers, I mean, not ratio), but the other has been requested in YT a few times and still not many hits. :( But it’s often requested as a kinky thing and mine is gen, so I guess that makes sense.

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