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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2023-10-21 10:01 pm
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And another one!

I see my nemesis getting a fic that I love
And I'm like, "Fuck you" 
I guess my 10k letter wasn't enough
I'm like, "Fuck you and fuck morbane, too"
Said, "If I was a long commenter, they woulda gamed for me"
Ha, now ain't that some shit?
(Ain't that some shit?)
And although there's pain in my chest
I still comment it's the best
And runs to coal to shout "Fuck you" 

Nominations: Monday 18 to Thursday 28 September (Coordination | Evidence Post)
Sign-ups: Friday 13 to Saturday 21 October (NYR | Promo Post)
Assignments Out: Monday 23 October (may be earlier)
Default Deadline: Monday 11 December
Assignment Deadline: Monday 18 December
Main Collection Opens: Monday 25 December
Madness Opens: Tuesday 26 December
Author Reveals: Monday 1 January


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Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with coalie above - in how I interpret the request anyway. (I think the tags are nbd.)

*For each of their requests, they give a very clear prompt about how two characters interact with each other

*They are obviously aware that their writer will take the prompts as optional inspiration because they talk about a range of things they would like in the two characters' interactions in each case. They're not demanding anything and they don't seem stuck on ideas, so it doesn't seem like a case where someone puts in a prompt because they think they have to say something

*It's still clear that what they want is the interaction. We know nothing about what they like about the canon and characters besides that interaction

*It's clear that they are capable of expressing the things they do want in words. So if they really wanted the other characters, or the characters alone, I would expect them to give prompts there too

*Additional tags are new and many people have been confused by them or misused them

*Their Last Unicorn request especially doesn't make sense because requesting four characters reduces their chances of receiving the prompt they asked for

Based on all that, I know someone could write them a story about just the Red Bull or just Marnie or just John Myers or just Bea Santello, but personally I would not take that risk. The likelihood that they were confused about having to request those characters, or felt like they had to select "just one is fine" tags to be nice, is too high.

Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
This is someone who's got no letter, minimal DNWs, one prompt per fandom. It could be that you're right and the only thing they want is that one prompt per fandom - because after all, they could have written a lot more!

Or it could be that they're not someone who is interested in writing a 10000-word signup, they spent five minutes putting one prompt each in the optional details to give their writer a prompt if they want one, they selected the characters that were a good match for the prompt, and then picked the tag that made it clear they were open to other things if their author didn't want to follow a prompt.

Not everybody is so far up BFE's backdoor that they realize they need to spend an hour outlining in detail every possible story they might enjoy when they write their optional details that are optional.



Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
It seems ironic to accuse someone of being "up BFE's backdoor" when that phrase itself implies its influence on you. And how did you see Goody Proctor, etc. We're on coal right now! Not ffa!


Anyway, what you say is possible and that's why I talked about risk, not certainty.

Plus I do know what you mean about the kind of signup where someone puts something in the box because they think they need to put something in the box, but isn't otherwise either invested in or skilled at putting something in the box.

I've seen it. But it looks more like this:

https://tagset2023.fandom.tools/#/user/Cake_is_so_yummy
https://tagset2023.fandom.tools/#/user/queenbookwench
https://tagset2023.fandom.tools/#/user/Tossawary

^data obtained by picking some most-requested fandoms from the app and skimming

Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
I was not exempting myself! I could no longer write a sign up like that without overthinking everything. But ah, I recall the carefree unbesmirched days of my youth when I was still capable of believing that perhaps odao means odao.

And those are some excellent examples of a particular style of signup you've selected, but not the only one.

Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
CYRT

But ah, I recall the carefree unbesmirched days of my youth when I was still capable of believing that perhaps odao means odao.

They were golden days. But I'm not sure I'd go back. I looked at the prompts I wrote for my first Yuletide mumbleyears ago, and did a full body cringe.

Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2023-11-07 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Those are cute prompts from Cake_is_so_yummy. I think they are a newbie and I hope they get something nice.

Re: Still think Additional Tags are so great, Mods?

(Anonymous) 2024-02-01 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
"The likelihood that they were confused about having to request those characters, or felt like they had to select "just one is fine" tags to be nice, is too high."

Bingo. I think you're right about this.

(I mentioned this elsewhere in the thread, but I wrote them a non-shippy main assignment and it was ignored, though they didn't reject it.)