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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2021-12-24 07:37 pm
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Don't Stop Coal Now!

Tonight I'm gonna have myself a real coal time
I feel alive
And the exchange I'll turn it inside out, yeah
I'm floating around in agony
So, (don't stop me now)
(Don't stop me)
'Cause I'm having a coal time, having a coal time~


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Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-25 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean you can DNW one of the characters you're asking for.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don’t see why not.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Because you're asking for them.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
But you don’t offer matches of characters. I’m not saying I think it’s enforceable, but if my assignment gave those details I wouldn’t have a problem with following them since I always could have just matched on one of those characters and had them DNW the other.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't matter. You can't DNW characters you request. If you only want B if it's a shipfic with A, you shouldn't request B outside of exchanges where you match on ships.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it's kinda weird and I don't know that the mods would enforce a DNW, but if someone expressed it as a preference I wouldn't mind in Yuletide.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
DC

That's you, not everyone agrees with you and the standard etiquette isn't on your side here. You giving them grace for their awkward and unenforceable request is great if they happen to be your recip, but you weren't their author and their actual author did nothing wrong by writing A&B for someone who requested A and B.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's you, not everyone agrees with you"

...Yes, that is how conversations work. People share their opinions.

"and the standard etiquette isn't on your side here"

There is no standard etiquette, otherwise we wouldn't be debating the topic here.

Are you new to this planet or something?

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Chill coalie, eat a snickers or something.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's you, not everyone agrees with you and the standard etiquette isn't on your side here.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
....Reposting part of someone else's comment in response to a different person in the conversation isn't making you look *less* weird.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-26 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Since when does "standard etiquette" include DNWing characters you requested? I've never seen anyone say that outside of this thread.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve never seen anyone explain why you couldn’t with full consideration of how matching works. There’s literally no good reason you have to give a shit about it, except that it’s a loophole and boo hoo you really wanted to write that exact gen dynamic but weren’t guaranteed the opportunity.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
SA And no, I am not saying that the person in question could have expected not to get A&B in this particular instance.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Because you can't DNW the things you explicitly requested, period. That's the case in every single exchange. It doesn't matter how matching works, if you requested something and are matchable on it, you need to be willing to actually get it.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
You can't hem your author in. But your author could have easily matched on someone who just requested A. If you select A and B, and say you only want A/B or A, you are not restricting your author any more than you would have by making a different legal request they happened to match on.

Re: Who Got Coal

(Anonymous) 2021-12-27 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

Also, there are a ton of previous examples of recips DNWing something they requested in the character/relationship field, but in a way that doesn't hem in their assigned authors. The most common one that I've seen is in ship-matching exchanges: recip requests A/B and A/C and says in their optional details, "Please only write me A/B or A/C fic--I DNW a story that contains both ships."
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