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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2021-09-04 07:45 pm
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The Coalies Are Back In Town

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again

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Default deadline: Sat 11 Dec
Assignment deadline: Sat 18 Dec
Reveals: Sat 25 Dec

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Re: Canon Recs - magic wlw

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Kim Harrison's Hollows series. The main characters are Rachel, a witch/bounty hunter, and Ivy, a vampire, who both live and work together. Not canon f/f, but very shipable. Ivy also a younger sister, Erica, who she is very protective of. If you're wearing your incest goggles it is also very shipable.

The series premise is basically what if the Thanos snap happened (but with tomatoes) but only affected humans and now the magical population size is equal to humans for the first time and can live openly.

Re: Canon Recs - magic wlw

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Check out Ash by Malinda Lo.
It's a lesbian re-telling of Cinderella.

"Have you ever wanted to be a princess?" Ash challenged her.

"That depends," Kaisa said.

"On what?"

"On whether I would have to marry a prince."

Re: How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
+1 I've noticed the same thing. Lots of anon kudos on the super-kinky porn.

Re: Canon Recs

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think you can still nominate it as long as it releases before the end of sign-ups.

Re: Worldbuilding

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's both with and without, depending on what aspect of the world you're exploring. Some explorations can be done with canon characters. For example, if you want to explore the worldbuilding in Essos some more, you can use some of the characters who have canonically been to Essos in Game of Thrones.

With other aspects, it's harder because the characters don't lend themselves to that particular topic, or because there are no canon characters who are or were in that area or time period. If you want to write about the Doom of Valyria, it'd probably be easiest with OCs.

You can also go and write unusual formats without any characters at all, like a fictional study or book, like excerpts from Lomas Longstrider's books.

Re: JunZhe evidence post?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Or the Frank Grillo/Callan Mulvey migratory fandom that keeps throwing up “MCU HYDRA agents but make them not villains” requests in other exchanges.

Re: JunZhe evidence post?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
Isn’t that just one person?

Re: JunZhe evidence post?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think it’s at least 3.

Re: Is everyone here from FFA?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Nope

Re: Shiny new (to you) Yuletide fandoms

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
+1

clussy

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
who wants it for yt

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
the coalies smelled a butt

Re: Canon Recs

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, it doesn't come out until Oct 29, for Halloween, and sign-ups end the 23rd

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Three and twenty coalies left in the pie

Re: Is everyone here from FFA?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Micromanaging is kind of ffa's thing though. (And yes, it does have a couple of persistent trolls.)

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I do think substantial AUs which completely change characters and setting should be counted as different things. I wouldn't allow Batman & Dracula, because it's just standard Batman except with vampires, but I might allow Superman: True Brit, because the setting, tone and characters are notably different from standard Superman.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
NA, but the MFD wank began here:

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/504689.html?thread=3044870001#cmt3044870001

and continued for thousands of comments on several more posts

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505278.html?thread=3047348158#cmt3047348158
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505474.html?thread=3049111426#cmt3049111426
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505635.html?thread=3050859555#cmt3050859555
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505900.html?thread=3052453676#cmt3052453676
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/506150.html?thread=3054168102#cmt3054168102

before ending in MFD's apparent cancellation for the foreseeable future:

https://multifandomdrabble.dreamwidth.org/48850.html

It has already been replaced by [community profile] seasonsofdrabbles.

The short version is that a miscommunication appears to have occurred between the mods, a pinch hitter, and a participant with a hard DNW for the MCU character Vision. The pinch hitter tagged a crossover drabble about MCU Wanda with the WandaVision (TV) fandom tag; the participant and/or one or more mods perceived this as a DNW violation, despite Vision neither appearing nor being mentioned in the actual drabble. The pinch hitter was asked to remove the tag, and did so, but apparently didn't realize why they'd been asked to do so.

When the mods made a post which said, among other things, that participants could add whatever fandom tags they liked to their works now that the exchange was over, the pinch hitter re-added the tag - one or more mods perceived this not as a good-faith reaction to their own admin post about adding fandom tags to works, but as a bad-faith attempt to re-violate the DNW. The participant deleted the positive comment they'd originally left on their gift, and rejected it; the pinch hitter was banned from the exchange. Wank ensued in which these details gradually came out one at a time and fed the discussion further, until people began making statements in namespace/posting logged-in critical comments on MFD admin posts, and, well, see above re: cancellation of the exchange and scribblemyname stepping down as mod.

ToT was much more of a storm in a teacup by comparison. The basics are that that exchange has always stuck to character matching ("OR" to Yuletide's "AND"), and the original ToT mod was very blunt about refusing to consider switching to or adding ship matching as a possibility. People who wanted ship matching were repeatedly advised to do other ship-matching exchanges, and/or make their own exchange, and that led to the creation of Shipoween, which ran at the same time as ToT, revealed on Halloween also, and took a slightly different tack with its themes (ToT does "tricks" or "treats", i.e. you can specify that you'd like spooky/creepy/scary fics, fluffy/sweet fics, or both, while Shipoween did "Seasonal", "Spooky", and "No Theme" matching).

Cut to this year. A new mod took over ToT, and announced just a day or two before noms opened that they would be adding ship matching as a possibility, and also that they'd be ditching the "eternal tagset" ToT had previously been reusing. Some people were annoyed because they'd been counting on the eternal tagset including their previous noms, some people were annoyed that the complaints of ship-matching enthusiasts had "won", &c &c.

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/507280.html?thread=3061681552#cmt3061681552

Then, after maybe twelve hours, the Shipoween mod made an announcement post saying Shipoween wouldn't be running this year - the ToT mod had communicated with them behind the scenes about adding ship-matching to ToT, and the Shipoween mod had enough going on that they were happy to take a step back and not have to run Shipoween right now.

https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/507280.html?thread=3062247824#cmt3062247824

Debate raged over the exact order of events, whether ToT had killed Shipoween or not, and whether people who like character matching or people who like ship matching were being more annoying about all of this. But it didn't have half the staying power of the MFD wank, and ToT has made it through noms and signups without either a particularly significant drop or a particularly significant increase in participants, despite a little mediocre trolling on subsequent posts.

The wank behind-the-scenes Easter egg here is that the original ToT mod who was so blunt about sticking to character matching only and the MFD participant with the Vision DNW? Are the same person.

Re: How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Either there's a large cohort of people who come to AO3 only for weird porn and don't have accounts, or people log out to kudos & comment so their name isn't attached. Which is more effort than I'd put in, so kudos to them?

But yeah weird porn in general has a bad hit/kudos ratio, logged-in-only weird porn has a *terrible* hit/kudos ratio.

Re: clussy

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm gonig to just assume that means cloaca pussy, in which case, always, coalie, always.

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are people so insane?

Re: How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of my real life friends think of AO3 as basically an anonymous porn repository. They read stuff on it regularly, but it would never occur to them to make accounts or leave any kind of feedback. They have no sense of fandom as community. To them, the stories might as well be written by AIs.

Re: How Likely Are People to Read Smut Anon on AO3?

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell them there's a lot of porn they can only see if they have an account! I think a lot of casuals don't realize that.

Re: clussy

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
but what if its clown pussy?!

Re: clussy

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have also osmosed that it means this. IT fans scare me.

Re: clussy

(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I appreciate a community where clown porn is considered worse than porn with cloacas.