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[(Anonymous)]

small vent - for all those ppl who complain that fic writers cause more wank than fan artists and fan artists do nothing wrong ever, i have hardly ever since the days of kitty de sade seen any fic writer who claimed they wrote without knowing the canon. and i have seen plenty artists who have done this. i have received more than one art gift across a wide swathe of exchanges where artists have straight up admitted this. some have got away with it pretty well and a couple have drawn the characters way, way ooc or with the wrong hair color or clothing styles etc.

so nobody is innocent and wank-free in exchanges, not writers, not artists, not recips even. we all are wankers in the end.

[(Anonymous)]

I've gotten canon blind art before and frankly i don't care, all my fandoms are so assblastingly rare that it's the only art that exists and i'm grateful for the crumbs of garbage I receive

[(Anonymous)]

cyrt

what kind of art quality are you getting? most of mine, their technical skill isn't bad, with a couple of notable exceptions. whether the gift lands or not depends a lot on how closely the characters resemble themselves in canon, though.

[(Anonymous)]

only one was bad enough that I'm still annoyed about it and only because i know that person usually does much better than they gave to me

[(Anonymous)]

same for me, pretty much. i've received a few art and fic gifts where sometimes the creator does a lot better than that when they're posting into the wild rather than creating a gift for a stranger. maybe it's an anxiety thing.

[(Anonymous)]

me2

[(Anonymous)]

The big assumption here is that it is an equal problem for an artist to draw canon-blind as it is for a writer to write canon-blind, and I'm not sure that's true.

[(Anonymous)]

Type of canon would make a difference I should think, it's one thing to create canon blind art for a visual medium where you could easily find reference images to work from, but trying to create canon blind fic for book canons would would be a very different prospect.

[(Anonymous)]

nc

the times i've seen someone write sort of canon blind for a book canon is if there's a movie adaptation, and the author bases the fic off of the movie instead of the book. tends to get very mixed results.

[(Anonymous)]

In most cases, yes. But then we had Pinch Hits Georg, aka kittydesade... and there may be a few like her still around.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not as inherently risky but it can definitely still be risky depending on what you're trying to do. There are often visual equivalents of "He would not fucking say that" that you might run afoul of, especially if you're trying to do a more narrative-based kind of art depicting an actual scene or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

outside of exchanges when you can see someone's entire body of work it's obvious when fanart is by people invested in the characters and canon vs guy standing there/girl breasting boobily stuff cashing in on the trendy fandom of the moment, but most exchange art is mediocre at best and of the guy standing there variety regardless of the artist's knowledge of the canon so it doesn't really matter

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's equally bad but I wouldn't call it perfectly okay either because the general expectation in exchanges is that you create things you're familiar enough with to create a decent gift. I think if you do art fandom-blind, you:

- shouldn't go out of your way to do it (I'm not saying don't PH, but definitely don't do that as your initial assignment, and let people who know the fandom have a shot at taking PHs)
- maybe get an art beta by someone who does know the fandom (probably at an early stage of making the art?) so they can point out if something feels wildly OOC
- be tactful in how you draw attention (if at all) to the fact that it's fandom-blind

[(Anonymous)]

SC

Also I think points 2 and the rest are mutually exclusive. As in, if you're going to work together with an art beta who does know the fandom, then effectively it's not really fandom-blind anymore and you can just treat it as normal.