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https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/667813.html?thread=4127766181#cmt4127766181

Anyone know what works this refers to? I skipped FIAB this year so I can't figure it out, but people are saying it was easy to find.

After a little bit of sleuthing, I believe it's the Sandman (comics) fills (plus two other art pieces in different fandoms for the same recipient). All the details match up - and honestly, I don't think the art is so bad, I like the pencil colours and shading, and there are some nice stylistic choices made, even if there is certainly also room for improvement.
I can only assume OP viewed them less charitably and more brattily because they were hoping for "more" (longer fics etc.) to dig their teeth into upon reveals, and then were disappointed by two very short fics and a lot of relatively "simple" art.

bit of a risk asking for gaiman these days, most won't touch that with a ten foot pole.

if it's true the fanwork creator didn't know the canon then it's pretty safe to say they don't know about the canon creator and his shenanigans. oof.

Eh, I don't know, most of the fandoms he's connected to seem more or less as active as they were before the news. Especially the audiovisual stuff. Not everyone knows and not everyone cares. People still write fic for Harry Potter and Buffy and other IPs that have some problematic name attached to it.

CYRT

Thank you for figuring it out, coalie! I think that's almost certainly it, and I agree with you re: the art.

That art is better than I assumed tbh.

Same, when someone was going on about kindergartener art I thought it was sure to be taken_aback_by_Tuesdays again

Either them or the salmon heart emoji person

(Some of their gifted art is okay to gift... some really isn't.)

Who is salmon heart emoji person?

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DC

It's not bad at all! I'm not super knowledgeable about the canon but the art itself is kind of neat. I understand not being into the style but I really don't think it's bad enough to warrant basically de-anoning over it.

(I know part of the complaint is apparently that the artist doesn't know the canon - it's probably a matter of preference, but personally that would bother me more with fic ... if someone is a good artist, they can probably create solid character art even if they don't know the source.)

well the art is kinda mid, but it's not as awful as recip seems to be making out. recip just seems to be having a bratty vent and ffa being ffa it all got blown out of proportion.

i think the recip was a bit brattier than average but yeah, ffa is where to go if you want a teacup to start a tempest.

I hope it wasn't them and they were framed, because that is pretty ungracious of them if it was their complaint. The art is okay. I think I'd personally hope for more skilled art as a gift, but it has clear effort in it. The recipient also had Sandman as their only requested canon for most of the exchange and added the other canons at the absolute last minute - which they had every right to do, but it means that it wasn't going to be easy for a pinch hitter to do a better job than the artist, who looked up references for a new canon specifically to give them a wider variety of gifts.

I actually quite like the art for Little Goody Two Shoes. If all the art were like the half-body library scene (pretend one character is in the part obscured by shelves - lol!), it would be less acceptable.

Also they have a 1.8k treat now.

Also they have a 1.8k treat now.

not like they deserve one after that semi-public tantrum. jfc what an entitled brat. gonna avoid that recip like the plague going forward.

Just so you know, the entitled FIAB recip is fayharley. I'm definitely going to put them on my DNM lists from now on.

I think it's correct to say they're a person whose details match the vent. I would be cautious about saying it's absolutely 100% them, especially considering how aggressively FFA's BFE thread is trolled.

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I think it was a bad move on their part to provide potentially de-anoning details, but they didn't actually namedrop the fandom or whatever, or the OP of this thread wouldn't have had to ask which art it was, duh. De-anoning by incatiously revealing details to a bunch of overinvested drama queens with too much time on their hands is not the same thing as throwing their creator under the bus on purpose, and you are acting like it is.

As for their creator:

The art is more or less okay (some of the works are much better than others), but I think it was a massive mistake for the artist to give their recip 9k of it. Especially knowing the best they could do was fandom-blind. You do that as a PHer with mediocre-at-best skills who doesn't know the fandom, you know damn well you're setting up your recip for a potentially very disappointing experience.

Corinthian enjoying the pleasure of the (offscreen) Lucien

Like, are you kidding me with this? I didn't notice this until the other coalie pointed out the thing about the art with the bookshelves but this is ridiculous. And it's tagged as Corinthian/Lucien, too.

This isn't an issue of art skill, it's biting off way more than you can chew and not giving a shit. I'm definitely DNMing the artist after, that's for sure. Not because I hate their art - I find some of it quite pleasant to look at - but because this is Pixels Georg level BS that feels frankly insulting as a request fill.

SC

Sorry if I got a little heated. I was feeling much more benevolent towards the artist before I saw that comment in the Sandman art.

Why would you gift someone a work showing a thing you didn't draw because you can't draw it...

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As the coalie a bit upthread hoping they were framed, I'm going to mildly disagree with you. The recipient wouldn't be the first to do this, but you do bear responsibility if you complain about your experience in a way that is identifiable on ffa, especially if you have been doing exchanges for years. You do not get to say "Oh, I had no idea nonnies would try to figure out which person this description applies to!" Complaining is not a right. Silence is free. Discretion is possible.

The art is more or less okay (some of the works are much better than others), but I think it was a massive mistake for the artist to give their recip 9k of it. Especially knowing the best they could do was fandom-blind. You do that as a PHer with mediocre-at-best skills who doesn't know the fandom, you know damn well you're setting up your recip for a potentially very disappointing experience.

No, I don't think this is right. The pinch hit was first posted on September 18 and never had more than 1k claimed until the very end of the exchange. They added new fandoms on Nov 4 and it was finally claimed on the Nov 13 post. So the artist didn't leap on it at once - they claimed it after giving other exchange participants every possible opportunity to step up as well.

I'm not seeing "didn't give a shit and bit off more than they could chew" here. I'm seeing "talked themself into stepping up when no one else was stepping up and bit off more than they could chew."

Corinthian enjoying the pleasure of the (offscreen) Lucien

Like, are you kidding me with this?

I agree, I got nothing. This would be cute as an in-joke between friends and an extra bonus, but, uh, no, that is not a good fill. He's... lying down. If it wasn't described, I wouldn't even know he was in a library. I assume that the artist was running out of ideas, or thought they could do more with this than they did, or thought the humor of it would outweigh the obvious problem.

In this case it wouldn't have helped, they also requested that character as a solo character tag.

Well, it would have kept them from tagging the relationship, at least.

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