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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2024-10-20 09:54 am
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Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-10-31 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Antis *have* weird kinks of their own!

They just don't notice because it's not about dick in vagina, but the fucked up power play stories and religious slobbery I've received are as weird as any Omegaverse fic. Only without the basic self awareness to realise 'hum this is a Lil Fucked Up' actually.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-10-31 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
CYRT

I realize antis have their own weird kinks but I'm still not seeing what the connection is between "people keep giving me weird kinks" and "antis exist".

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-10-31 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Faulty categorisation of everyone who objects to violent kink as being religious and wanting the same hierarchical dynamics that they're objecting to. Misleading and disingenuous.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-10-31 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I have received fic from antis for like a decade straight now. I don't know why I bother with Yuletide at all honestly.

I don't like reading what reads to *them* as sane, wholesome fic; because their sexual fantasies are extremely fucked up in ways they refuse to acknowledge.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-10-31 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, coalie, I'm kind of struggling here, because getting weird "fucked up power play stories and religious slobbery" stories, that you didn't ask for, for a decade straight sounds

a) unpleasant! I'm sorry that happened to you

b) weird as hell. Like, something is going on here, and that something COULD be the worst luck known to coal. I want to stress that even though my brain strays to "is there something about the fandoms?? Are you accidentally including a secret code in your prompts???" I don't think this has got to be your fault

It's just - antis? I'm not even sure we're using the same definition of antis, but this seems like a really broad generalization for a bizarre circumstance.

It's weird enough that you're getting any straight pattern of awful gifts for a decade straight. Most of us getting bad gifts are just getting A Story In Which Nothing Happens.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
DC

I think what I recognize in that vent is that there are, in fact, a lot of people in fandom who have headcanons/kinks that are pretty dark, really (often things that, when you think about it, are clearly non-con/abusive/manipulation and so forth) but who see them as wholesome and romantic. These people are not necessarily all antis, but there's overlap because they are typically the ones who struggle the most with admitting that they, too, have fucked-up fantasies.

But there are "proshippers" who do this too - there's this one guy I used to share a fandom with who is definitely not an anti but who kept swearing up and down that the one thing he wouldn't ever write or read is intergenerational incest because it was his hard DNW ... which I took at face value until I went to his AO3 and realized he'd written more than half of the stories for an adoptive parent/child ship. Like, I mean, good for him, and the fic wasn't half-bad, but the mental disconnect was so puzzling to me.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
"Non-biological incest isn't actually incest" is a reasonably common opinion, even though I can't really see the difference when it comes to one character having raised the other from childhood.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. As someone in a similar boat as him, what squicks me about incest is the biological relation. If it's an adopted relationship, it just doesn't hit the squick.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-03 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
you! you get it.

Re: Have you ever signed up with a blank signup?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
What are some examples of antis who participate in Yuletide?