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Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, and you tailor it to your recip when you can for that reason. It's intended as a gift. But Yuletide also exists as an exchange where the broader context of the exchange is itself a community goal.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

I have never once thought about the broader context of the exchange in twenty odd years of doing Yuletide, and I am pretty sure most people don't either.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 from the other Yuletide longtimer upthread

This is a baffling taking. The important thing is that the recip likes it. I'm writing for them.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

DC

I think that makes sense as a first priority. But the event was explicitly founded and still has taglines about being a project to get more works in rare fandoms.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Yes? That's what inevitably happens in an exchange where every request is for a rate fandom. You're still writing for a recip.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

Are we disagreeing?

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Depends. Of course a small fandom exchange means "more fic for small fandoms". We agree on that. But you (or a coalie upthread? not sure if that's you) seem to think that the wider context and reception of the fic beyond what the recip wants should be something the author should take into account when writing the fic, and I strongly disagree with that idea.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Oh, okay. See, I didn't read that as "you SHOULD take that into account" so much as, if you have no idea if you'll please your recipient and you want to improve your chances of getting a friendly comment, considering wider trends isn't a bad thing to do.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Then we are indeed in agreement! Sorry for being a bit argumentative - I thought you and the coalie below were the same person.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

All good! I might have misunderstood some of the way the thread drifted.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

What I'm arguing is that ODAO still exists within the broader context of the event and that part of the appeal of Yuletide and the reason ODAO is a rule is because you're writing for your recip *and* the collection.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

I understood your argument. I just don't agree with it.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean it is factually true lol it doesn't matter if you agree.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

the reason ODAO is a rule is because you're writing for your recip *and* the collection

This part is not, in fact, factually true. That's not why ODAO exists.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

It is factually true that you are writing for the recip and the collection by virtue of doing Yuletide and it is also factually true that in this context Yuletide has an ODAO rule. Thus, an empty signup is permissible.

Re: Why isn't Yuletide growing?

[(Anonymous)]

You might not have thought about it but it's always explicitly been part of the point of the exchange.