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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2023-10-21 10:01 pm
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And another one!

I see my nemesis getting a fic that I love
And I'm like, "Fuck you" 
I guess my 10k letter wasn't enough
I'm like, "Fuck you and fuck morbane, too"
Said, "If I was a long commenter, they woulda gamed for me"
Ha, now ain't that some shit?
(Ain't that some shit?)
And although there's pain in my chest
I still comment it's the best
And runs to coal to shout "Fuck you" 

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Sign-ups: Friday 13 to Saturday 21 October (NYR | Promo Post)
Assignments Out: Monday 23 October (may be earlier)
Default Deadline: Monday 11 December
Assignment Deadline: Monday 18 December
Main Collection Opens: Monday 25 December
Madness Opens: Tuesday 26 December
Author Reveals: Monday 1 January


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Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-19 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
DC

I feel like the anti-OW coalies here are not really familiar with exchange OW in the first place. They have probably never really checked the tagset, the requests or the OW that gets written.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-19 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I have. It's original work. It isn't transformative. It is not fanfiction. It doesn't belong in a fanwork exchange.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's transformative; if you don't allow that it can be transformative on the tropes of a genre, it's at the very least transforming the requester's prompt.

And it's definitely fanfiction; fanfiction meant "any fiction produced by fans as fans for other fans" long before Star Trek girlies co-opted it for stuff about other people's IP. Any fiction posted on AO3 is definitionally fanfiction because by posting it on AO3 you're agreeing you're a fan writing as a fan for other fans.

It's not small fandom fic so it doesn't belong in Yuletide, and it's not crossover fic so it doesn't belong in a crossover exchange, or in an exchange for fic based on sci-fi canons, or whatever. But if it's explicitly an exchange for fans to write any sort of fan fiction for other fans, then sure, the hell not, that's what fan fiction is.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Then don't have it in exchanges you mod, and untie your knickers, that must be uncomfortable.

People having fun differently to you should not be your problem.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Super sure they don't mod anything or even contribute anything. Seems more like a angry impotent all talk type wanker.

Kudos though on how long they've keep this luke warm rant going.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not allowed in exchanges I mod, thanks for your concern! And as I've said 5000 times while you huff your a2g juice, I'm fully resigned to it infesting the rest of the scene. I know it's not going away, because people love their wallpaper paste men.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I love how think you're superior because you sincerely believe that being a fan of a movie/book/game and stanning your specific blorbos is somehow more refined and high brow than just loving tropes and kinks.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
+100

Anti-OW Coalie, you are not better than OW enjoyers! We’re all gremlins writing our little gremlin stories and that’s okay!

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
+200

This is some sad pretentious bullshit.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep.

In my exchanges people keep nominating original works and original characters despite the rules stating very clearly this isn't allowed, then they get mad. There are two original works exchanges over there. Go participate in those.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, do we have two completely different exchange mods that dislike OW on coal. That's amazing!

In all my exchanges, everyone loves OW and it's the biggest fandom everytime. And no one cares because they're having fun.

Sure is great that all three of us actual exchange mods are on coal all at the same time to share our experiences.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
In all my exchanges, you can't write original characters, but original characters can write you.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
We are all actually 1000 Morbanes.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
In all my exchanges Marvel is always the biggest fandom but there's still plenty of room for original work if people want to request it.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
In my exchanges, OW is allowed but no one has ever written it.

They are tiny exchanges, though.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd be surprised how many exchange mods are on coal. I'm an exchange mod! Ok once for a very small exchange 5+ years ago but I can definitely speak authoritatively from experience.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Still, this is an anon forum so questioning some convenient posting is fine. Personally, hoping for the anon fail to really super charge this tepid wank.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, this is some seriously sad bullshit. No one is this desperately patheticly upset about a2g and OW and mods anything. We'd be for real wanking for ages if this was true.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
What if they totally anon failed and they were an actual mod for some exchange. We would feast for days.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Morbane, is that you?

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-21 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Morbane once co-modded an original works exchange, so probably not.

But it is some other mod's turn for that sort of notoriety...

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) - 2023-12-21 01:48 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-19 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

While there is some space and superhero stuff, none of it feels remotely like Star Wars or the MCU like that one nonnie said. Historical or fantasy-historical royalty settings are really common. F/F isn't as popular as M/M, but there's a nontrivial amount of it. The character dynamics in shippy fandom-adjacent OW generally feel a lot like the self-published and trad published gay romances I've read.

Anti-OW coalies could make a less laughable argument if they actually had some idea what they were talking about. I'd still disagree with them, but at least their premises and conclusion wouldn't be objectively silly.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-19 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You, yourself, are making the exact same "anti-OW argument" that everyone else is: that the OW that appears in current exchanges is the same as self/trad published OW, eg not fannish.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
NC

And indeed it is. Tropey historical m/m on AO3 in an exchange is like tropey historical m/m self-pubbed on Amazon or Smashwords.

Re: Reveals wank prediction

(Anonymous) 2023-12-20 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
While there is some space and superhero stuff, none of it feels remotely like Star Wars or the MCU like that one nonnie said.

Idk if you mean me, but that wasn't what I meant. I'm not writing Stucky fic and call them Anton and Bob and writing superhero OW about them. But my pirate OW might have a character called Anton, who's vaguely based on Bucky and a character called Bob who's vaguely based on Han Solo. (Obviously, this is a fake example.)