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Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

Fun fact: the characters of War and Peace are not RL sex offenders.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

No, but the author married a teenager when he was in his mid-thirties and then abused her for decades, so there's that.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

They actually got on reportedly well for years until Tolstoy became a weirdo religious fundamentalist, but he was a total shit to her after that, so your point still stands.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

"She loved him" and "he was an abusive POS who fucked his employees and held it over her if she didn't give him enough sex" are, alas, not mutually exclusive.

Anyway yeah some of the stuff is up for debate like in all these cases, but suffice to say that is *not* an example of a work with no problematic real people involved.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

War and Peace is also *not* an example of a work with no problematic characters. It is also *not* an example of a work where the characters weren't based off real problematic people.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

NC

I honestly don't see how "the point still stands" as the cases aren't comparable. If someone was writing RPF about Tolstoy, yes, but just fic for his fictional characters? That's not the same at all.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

The point, if you read the original comment, was about war and aristo issues. You can engage with W&P and not espouse the stance of the characters (a lot of whom are real people or composites or several people). Or of the writer!

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

A boring wank about antis transforming into an off-the-wall wank about Tolstoy is, honestly, so beautiful to me.

Bless you, coal.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe they got "on well" in the more day to day life sense, but still Tolstoy forced his wife to have thirteen children, still we see Sofia write in this way about her life with him:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2a70faf8142cbc6ba7b67adc185e7b5b/tumblr_poqhqxwwxA1ryqf5u_500.jpg

https://64.media.tumblr.com/7917871fe25890fbe2e162f66b017bb6/tumblr_poqh05D7uT1ryqf5u_500.jpg

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck Tolstoy.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

+1 only guy worse on that axis is Rousseau

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm Team Tolstoy Was Worse, usually. His toxicity and cult of himself definitely plays into 'fuck Tolstoy'.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

sc Yeah, that's valid.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

*cyrt

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

FUCK TOLSTOY

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

Jury's out on Anatole Vasilyevich at the very least.

Re: Assignments!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm nearly 100% sure he's not a real life sex offender.