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The Coalies Are Back In Town
Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again
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Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again
Nominations: Mon 20 Sept to Thurs 30 Sept
Sign-ups: Fri 15 Oct to Sat 23 Oct
Assignments out by: Mon 25 Oct
Default deadline: Sat 11 Dec
Assignment deadline: Sat 18 Dec
Reveals: Sat 25 Dec
Yuletide Discord and Exchanges After Dark Discords for Namespace
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-12 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)It's early days yet...
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/504689.html?thread=3044870001#cmt3044870001
and continued for thousands of comments on several more posts
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505278.html?thread=3047348158#cmt3047348158
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505474.html?thread=3049111426#cmt3049111426
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505635.html?thread=3050859555#cmt3050859555
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/505900.html?thread=3052453676#cmt3052453676
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/506150.html?thread=3054168102#cmt3054168102
before ending in MFD's apparent cancellation for the foreseeable future:
https://multifandomdrabble.dreamwidth.org/48850.html
It has already been replaced by
The short version is that a miscommunication appears to have occurred between the mods, a pinch hitter, and a participant with a hard DNW for the MCU character Vision. The pinch hitter tagged a crossover drabble about MCU Wanda with the WandaVision (TV) fandom tag; the participant and/or one or more mods perceived this as a DNW violation, despite Vision neither appearing nor being mentioned in the actual drabble. The pinch hitter was asked to remove the tag, and did so, but apparently didn't realize why they'd been asked to do so.
When the mods made a post which said, among other things, that participants could add whatever fandom tags they liked to their works now that the exchange was over, the pinch hitter re-added the tag - one or more mods perceived this not as a good-faith reaction to their own admin post about adding fandom tags to works, but as a bad-faith attempt to re-violate the DNW. The participant deleted the positive comment they'd originally left on their gift, and rejected it; the pinch hitter was banned from the exchange. Wank ensued in which these details gradually came out one at a time and fed the discussion further, until people began making statements in namespace/posting logged-in critical comments on MFD admin posts, and, well, see above re: cancellation of the exchange and scribblemyname stepping down as mod.
ToT was much more of a storm in a teacup by comparison. The basics are that that exchange has always stuck to character matching ("OR" to Yuletide's "AND"), and the original ToT mod was very blunt about refusing to consider switching to or adding ship matching as a possibility. People who wanted ship matching were repeatedly advised to do other ship-matching exchanges, and/or make their own exchange, and that led to the creation of Shipoween, which ran at the same time as ToT, revealed on Halloween also, and took a slightly different tack with its themes (ToT does "tricks" or "treats", i.e. you can specify that you'd like spooky/creepy/scary fics, fluffy/sweet fics, or both, while Shipoween did "Seasonal", "Spooky", and "No Theme" matching).
Cut to this year. A new mod took over ToT, and announced just a day or two before noms opened that they would be adding ship matching as a possibility, and also that they'd be ditching the "eternal tagset" ToT had previously been reusing. Some people were annoyed because they'd been counting on the eternal tagset including their previous noms, some people were annoyed that the complaints of ship-matching enthusiasts had "won", &c &c.
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/507280.html?thread=3061681552#cmt3061681552
Then, after maybe twelve hours, the Shipoween mod made an announcement post saying Shipoween wouldn't be running this year - the ToT mod had communicated with them behind the scenes about adding ship-matching to ToT, and the Shipoween mod had enough going on that they were happy to take a step back and not have to run Shipoween right now.
https://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/507280.html?thread=3062247824#cmt3062247824
Debate raged over the exact order of events, whether ToT had killed Shipoween or not, and whether people who like character matching or people who like ship matching were being more annoying about all of this. But it didn't have half the staying power of the MFD wank, and ToT has made it through noms and signups without either a particularly significant drop or a particularly significant increase in participants, despite a little mediocre trolling on subsequent posts.
The wank behind-the-scenes Easter egg here is that the original ToT mod who was so blunt about sticking to character matching only and the MFD participant with the Vision DNW? Are the same person.
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)That Easter egg twist ending though!
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)You're welcome! The MFD one especially was pretty epic, it would be a shame for any coalie not to have the deets. :D
(And yeah, it's a heck of a coincidence! We're on the third ToT mod, AFAIK there's no direct connection there to the present wank, but as long as I was covering both at the same time, I couldn't help but mention it.)
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)Right? That's a hell of a Venn diagram to be the overlap in. :'D
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)tl;dr The two wanks are the same wank because the MFD was >50% grudgewank from the start about the previous stance on ship-matching in ToT
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-22 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)I'd say 25%. There was plenty of wank for MFD before we even knew which story was involved
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-23 12:44 am (UTC)(link)I was one of them. I got bummed out by the whole thing and have the ToT thread blocked now.
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(Anonymous) 2021-09-23 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)Nah. The fact that RedCoyote was a mod of ToT and other exchanges definitely *did* contribute to the wank, but not in the way you're saying it did. It wasn't 75% grudgewank, it was because they were friends with the MFD mods that the situation spiraled out of control in the first place. The mods saw "Friend hurt!" and went fucking nuclear, whereas if it had been Random Participant #238, I doubt it would have even gotten to that point. Personally, I didn't have any clue who RC/VP was before the wank went down other than "oh yeah, they do exchanges, seem to be pinch hits a lot," and definitely didn't know they were PK1, and wanked long and hard on the side of the banned writer. ffa at least was *firmly* on the writer's side long before we were able to follow the breadcrumbs and realize the recip was RC.
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