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2021

The Coalies Are Back In Town

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again

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Maybe Elliot wears a blindfold as various exceptions to the Securities Act are read and Elliot has to guess which are from valid no-action letters and which are pure bullshit?

I'm going to do that, and I'm usually all about gen outs. As the other coalie said - if you don't want to write "more of canon" about these two characters, why even offer them?

Beware of the Villainess is pretty shippy for Nine/Melissa/Yuri (m/f/f). Nine/Melissa is canon, but Melissa and Yuri are pretty shippy, too.

I'm reading the first book in the Templar Knight series by Maureen Ash thanks to a coalie rec. I'm enjoying it and will offer it.

It'll stay Yuletide-elible for years unless it picks up a sudden burst of popularity.

Thank you for this!

I'm not over the fact that someone wrote 36 Yuletide fics last year.

If you get a long overdue comment from a previous noncommenting recip, do you want to know why it took them so long to say something?

I'm curious but don't feel like they're obligated to tell me - my assumption is just that life and/or brain badness happened. (Honestly I'm more curious about why they finally got around to it!)

Nope.

"I'm sorry it has taken me so long to comment. [Text of actual comment goes here.]"

Anything more just feels like you want me to feel bad for you.

I don't mind if it's a brief kind of "sorry, life" sort of thing. But when it goes into enough detail that I then feel obligated to get into an awkward reassurance/concern dialogue with the recip, I'd really rather not.

"Sorry for late comment, I was having a tough time IRL. Thank you for writing for me etc etc," fine.

"This comment is so late because I was (specific medical/life/work details or whatever), I just could not find time to comment," TMI.

I prefer just a quick apology if you feel the need, then comment as if no time has passed.

What's the best number of requests?

As a writer: 6, so that the odds of you requesting at least one/multiple fandoms I like goes up and thus I have more people to treat.

As a requester: however many fandoms you like equally. The odds you’ll get treats is low, so you should only ask for fandoms you would be happy to have that be your only gift for, not “this is my fav and getting bonus fics in the other ones would be cool too!” I personally am really multifandom so I can have 6 requests I like a lot, and those are usually the years I get the most treats. This year I think I’m only going to request 4 because those are the ones I want equally, and then I plan to sock up to request the fandoms I want a little less.

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I'm asking for three this year. There are other things in the tagset I'd enjoy reading, but I don't want them as MUCH and, really, that's as unfair to my writer as it is to me.

I’m curious but I wouldn’t want to be told in the comment, if that makes any sense. I don’t want to feel like I have to comfort a virtual stranger who was mildly rude to me in a fandom exchange about anything serious in their personal lives; we don’t have that kind of relationship.

Yeah, I probably will. Looking closely, it appears to have been used by writers from both fandoms, likely without either side realizing it, and then probably because the one fandom was using it, it got linked to the actual title, leading to fics from the other fandom showing up under the main title tag for the first fandom. It's confusing and frustrating and I need to follow it up before next year.

If I only want pairing fic for a non-canon pairing, do I have to come up with prompts I don't want to make it look like I'm equally fine with non-pairing fic? (I know optional details are optional and I might not get what I want, and I'm prepared to appreciate whatever I get, but I'm hoping it doesn't hurt to ask.)

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For requesting, if you can imagine being disappointed to receive one of your fandoms as your only gift, you probably shouldn’t include it.

Short answer: no, you do not have to.

Long answer: what I try to do in these instances is start by talking about the aspects I like about the relationship between the two characters, like in general terms, not just shippy terms. For example, maybe I talk about liking how their relationship evolves over the course of canon, and how I love all the little moments of collaboration and connection amidst the general hostility. Or whatever. Then I give my shippy prompts, but I've laid that foundation of what I like about the characters together in general.

That way, if I do get an author who doesn't want to write the ship, they still have plenty of material to write a gen fic about the two characters that captures some of their appeal for me, without me ever explicitly giving any gen outs.

IMO, if and only if there are any non-pairing scenarios you would actually enjoy receiving, or if there's anything you genuinely like about the canonical relationship between the characters in the ship that could make a gen fic more appealing to you.

There are some people who might be annoyed that you have nothing but ship prompts and ODAO you, but if you had gen prompts you didn't want and they wrote one of those ... I mean, that's kind of ODAOing you anyway, in the sense that you're going to end up with a gift you're not happy about that doesn't contain stuff you're interested in, except you invited them to.

And there are other people who might be equally happy to write you gen or shipfic, and who might, in good faith, love one of the gen prompts you didn't want! And write it for you, merrily thinking you're totally going to adore it, yay! Except they're actually going to give you completely unintentional coal, and it's all the worse because they'd have been willing to write you the shipfic you wanted in the first place if they'd known you were going to like that better.

Basically, there's no meaningful upside to asking for stuff you don't want, and there's multiple downsides. If there actually is a way someone could write you a non-pairing fic you'd enjoy, it might be worth including details about that so a non-pairing writer could still give you a gift you're happy to get; but if there isn't, don't pretend that there is.

DC oh, I like this approach

If pairing fic for that pairing is literally the only thing you want in that fandom - if you'd rather not get that fandom at all than get anything else in it - maybe don't request it for yt, save it for a pairing-match fest? There's lots of them now.

If you really want the pairing but would still be happy (just not the happiest) with getting something else, you don't have to fake joy in your letter. Three paragraphs of ship squee + "I would also love gen that explores that dynamic between them" is a perfectly acceptable gen out, as long as you can mean it. So is ship squee + "For the two requested characters I really only want them shipped with each other, but (nonshippy prompt about only one character)/(completely unrelated general prompt) could be fun too." Your writer will know that you really wanted ship but that you understood you might not get it and accepted the risk, and the social contract is satisfied.

Also there are exceptions for, like, the special yt fandoms where everybody knows it's about the pairing. Nobody will be mad if you don't give gen outs for the Folgers incest commercial or some of the perennial rpf fandoms that are clearly just a ship.

If pairing fic for that pairing is literally the only thing you want in that fandom - if you'd rather not get that fandom at all than get anything else in it - maybe don't request it for yt, save it for a pairing-match fest? There's lots of them now.

THIS. Optional details are optional. Writers do not match on pairings and are not required to write them.

SC

Also, for the record,

mistletoe_exchange is in its nominations period for another week, and is on a similar timeline to Yuletide (work reveals 12/21, author reveals 12/28) but for / relationships only.

If pairing fic for that pairing is literally the only thing you want in that fandom - if you'd rather not get that fandom at all than get anything else in it - maybe don't request it for yt, save it for a pairing-match fest? There's lots of them now.
THIS. Not only are there lots of pairing exchanges now, but many many people are requesting super rare fandoms in them, the same fandoms they’d request in Yuletide. Yuletide no longer is the only exchange where you’re guaranteed a tiny fandom. And even better, you can match specifically on the ship instead just hoping you’ll get a writer who ships the character. I’ve honestly gotten better fic for my ships in rare fandoms in other exchanges.

If I’m reusing past parts of letters, specifically past prompts/requested fandom sections, and have received fic for one or more of those fandoms, how much do I need to change up those sections (if any)?

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