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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2021-09-04 07:45 pm
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The Coalies Are Back In Town

Friday night they'll be dressed to kill
Down at Coaltide Bar'n'Grill
The receipts will flow and wank will spill
And if the coalies wanna fight, you better let 'em
That jukebox in the corner blastin' out my favorite song
The nights are getting longer, it won't be long
Won't be long 'til Yuletide comes
Now that the coalies are here again

Nominations: Mon 20 Sept to Thurs 30 Sept
Sign-ups: Fri 15 Oct to Sat 23 Oct
Assignments out by: Mon 25 Oct
Default deadline: Sat 11 Dec
Assignment deadline: Sat 18 Dec
Reveals: Sat 25 Dec

Yuletide Discord and Exchanges After Dark Discords for Namespace drama 18+ discussion. Google Group for PHs. F_F wiki for history. Universal App for all past Yuletides and any other exchanges (donate).

Re: Stupid Questions

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
If you request two characters that are together canonically, is it bad form for all of your requests to touch on their couple-ness?

Re: Stupid Questions

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
No.

Re: You can't believe it's still eligible for YT

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't nominate Prey 2017 because it seems to have such a decent sized presence in other exchanges that I just filed it off as too big in my mind. It's one of those fandoms that if I request it I know I have a decent chance of getting it.

I just checked and it has 187 works on AO3 and 32 on FF.net (including crossovers) before any filtering is done. Once I filter it's down to 75 total.

I can't decide if I'm mad at myself for not checking earlier and nominating it. I probably wouldn't have requested it? But I definitely would have written it if someone else did.

Re: Tagset Sorting / Recs - Romantic Fantasy/Fantasy Romance

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Provost's Dog - Tamora Pierce: A book trilogy with 2 m/f pairings (the second one only really happens in the 3rd book), and one background m/m (1 is trans/genderqueer) pairing in the second book. Plus lots of action and adventure

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
People said that about ghost soup too, but most fics aren't 1k

Re: 2020 Easter Eggs

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You're the best, Coadie!!!

When you say "scrape" does that mean that the app automatically checks for number of fics and wordcount? Meaning that we spreadsheet coalies needn't do it by hand in the future?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
DC And you can want prompts that don't require a specific character without wanting worldbuilding!

Earnestly, what would this look like? Fic about an ensemble?

Re: 2020 Easter Eggs

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeppers; I certainly don't hand-count this stuff, haha! Given a collection ID, the scraper just loops through all the works and puts stuff together.

I haven't put it into the autoapp, but thinking about it there's no reason why I couldn't put it into the autoapp if people wanted me to. The caveat there being that it would only be for non-logged in public works. Worth doing?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
ncyrt

Not exclusively. I'd imagine it could be anything like a prompt for post-canon fic with any of the nominated characters or characters D, E, and F are all off-screen during the climactic battle but come upon the carnage, write any of their POVs to the devastation. Basically any sort of broad scenario that could be fulfilled with any character.

Re: Tagset Sorting / Recs - Horror

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's so weird. What's the logic behind it...?

Re: 2020 Easter Eggs

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I’m getting an error message for this, as follows:

Why am I seeing this?

There are a few potential reasons:

You haven't deployed an app yet.
You may have deployed an empty directory.
This is a custom domain, but we haven't finished setting it up yet.

random stats

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I was curious about how many people might actually benefit from matching options like worldbuilding, so I checked last year's app, and 998 out of 6073 requests had no characters - that's about about 16%, so not a huge majority or anything, but significant (especially if you consider that a lot of people probably think you have to request characters, or have to request them just so they can DNW one.)

(216 of the no-characters requests were also no-optional details; there were 24 no-characters-no-details-no-letters)

Meanwhile there were 476 that used the word "worldbuilding" or a variation, of which 389 also requested characters, so almost 90% of those no-characters requests aren't requesting worldbuilding, at least by name.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
-"I'd love anything about any character in this fandom, here are some scattershot ideas but go wild"
-"I would love this, this, or this AU, or something set during this time in canon"
-"I'm interested in how this plot thing that happened would have affected any of the characters, pick your fave"
-"I'd love anything using this trope/theme"
-"Porn and/or shenanigans please"
-"something based on this canon installment"

There's 800+ examples in last year's app, there's many ways of doing it!

Re: 2020 Easter Eggs

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Google DNS has been vomiting sometimes for reasons I can't explain. The alt https://tagset2021.web.app/#/bonus should always work; lemme know otherwise.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
pulled from my planned requests this year:

- canon left this plot thread dangling, please yank on it?
- there's a whole bunch of minor characters that are important to the MCs that are mentioned for a few hundred words each in the flashback sequence, I'd love anything about one of them and their relationship to their relevant MC
- I'd love something that looks at this five-minute fandom from a meta perspective
- OC or minor canon character's viewpoint on any of the MCs while X was happening to them
- this canon is very definitely always X genre by a strict formula, what if you took a canon-style story and went outside the formula or switched genre?
- If you connect this dot and this dot, there are interesting implications for why that other thing happened, so what if?
- This fandom is always so tragic, please make something happy happen/this fandom is never serious, but what if it was for once?

Like some of that could be interpreted as "worldbuilding" at a stretch, but at that point so would most character requests.

Re: random stats

(Anonymous) 2021-10-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool stats!

I requested worldbuilding and a character only because there were several characters in the tagset (nominated by someone other than me - I nominated without characters) and I didn't want to ask for no characters (any) and get one particular character I dislike.

I am really excited about asking for worldbuilding in this fandom this year, because in truth I don't want any of the canon characters. I did receive a nice fic with the character I requested, but I would rather not have had a that-character-centric fic.

Re: random stats

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

>>I requested worldbuilding and a character only because there were several characters in the tagset (nominated by someone other than me - I nominated without characters) and I didn't want to ask for no characters (any) and get one particular character I dislike.

Yeah, I think there's a lot of that! I've also requested a single character even though I didn't particularly care if I got that character because canon is huge and I wanted something from the part of canon that character was in, so I didn't want to match with someone who only wanted to write a character from, say, 5000 years ago on a different planet.

Re: New Yuletide canons you have consumed

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Killer and Healer! I'd been meaning to watch it anyway, but if it's gonna be requested for Yuletide, might as well get started now since it's 37 episodes.
So far the slash element is so-so for me but the amount that Chen Yuzhi gets held at gunpoint and/or kidnapped is amazing.

Re: Stupid Questions

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. You are not guaranteed to get fic focused on them as a couple, but it's not bad form to request it.

Re: Totally new (to you) fandoms you might request

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
The Sec Therapy webcomic.

Re: Totally new (to you) fandoms you might request

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
On the next chapter of SEC Therapy, Elliot puts a collar on a regulator responsible for part of SOX becoming as long, variously comprehensible, and impact on HR and controls trainings the world round as it has.

One caning for every section in the act. It's going to be a long night.

Re: Stupid Questions

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I think if what you're requesting is More Of [Canon], it's fine not to give an out. If they weren't okay with the canon dynamic they shouldn't have offered the characters.

Re: Totally new (to you) fandoms you might request

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
THE RED SOX

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Someone should submit a request to the wranglers to change the book canons to "Winterbluumensaat - Fake Yuletide Fandom" and "Nur Die Sonne - Fake Yuletide Fandom"

Re: Totally new (to you) fandoms you might request

(Anonymous) 2021-10-13 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
CYRT

I DIED