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This is Yuletide, everybody make a scene
I am the sock with the tear-away face
Low-effort with your gift and gone without a trace
I am the "who" when you call, "Who does an exchange without acknowledging their gift?"I am the wanker blowing through your fics comments
I am the coalie dragging your letter at night
Filling your exchange to the brim with fright!
This is Coaltide!
Nominations: Tuesday 22 September to Thursday 1 October
Sign-ups: Friday 16 October to Monday 26 October
Assignments out: between 26 & 28 October
Default deadline: Friday 11 December
Assignment Deadline: Friday 18 December
Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. F_F wiki for history.
Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. F_F wiki for history.
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-27 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)Genuine question: who cares?
Dunkirk is eligible but it probably has a fuckton of fic on Wattpad. Same goes for a lot of cnovels or BL dramas. TW, TSN and GK made it in for a few years because they were LJ fandoms. SPN should technically be WAY BIGGER because it was an LJ fandom for so long and had its own archive.
We are posting and reading our fics on AO3. If a random anime megafandom gets it into Yuletide because it has no AO3 fandom I don’t personally care. There will not be 90 Sailor Moon fics in 2020 because even though lots of people know it, it isn’t that popular a fandom anymore, especially in AO3 fandom. YoI didn’t even blow up THAT much and it was a fandom at its peak. People act like FFN is the Great Wall keeping an influx of popular megafandoms from taking over Yuletide. If people really wanted to write those fandoms on AO3, they would be ineligible even if FFN was gone. If by some magic stroke Sailor Moon turns into Captive Prince where it gets a steady stream of fics and eventually hits 1k applicable works on AO3, good for them and goodbye Sailor Moon.
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-27 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)The outcry made sense when Yuletide mods tried to stop counting FFN a number of years ago, back when AO3 was still a new and relatively small archive. But AO3's well-established now, and the number of megafandoms that would become eligible with this rule change is now far more reasonable.
And as you point out, large fandoms are still getting into Yuletide, as long as their fic is mostly posted on Wattpad or LJ or single fandom archives or etc. It seems a lot simpler and fairer to just use AO3 to determine fandom eligibility.
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-28 02:19 am (UTC)(link)I care, and my reasoning has nothing to do with what the "right" measure is for eligibility. I just find the ff.net interface fucking annoying and hate checking two places.
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-28 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)+1. Though technically three places, since I have to check ff.net twice (regular and crossovers). And the interface sucks so bad, coalies. So bad.
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-28 03:30 am (UTC)(link)majority I would have used Supernatural as my ‘old fandom that may be small on AO3 but everyone knows is huge’ example, just FYI!)
Re: FFN
(Anonymous) 2020-09-28 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)The Social Network (2010) got into yuletide ... laaaast year? It was huge on LJ circa 2011. It's still eligible without evidence because, well:
No Category on FFN + 1 FFN community with 14 fics in it.
901 fic on AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=%E2%9C%93&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=revised_at&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=words+%3E+1000&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=1&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=0&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=1&commit=Sort+and+Filter&tag_id=The%20Social%20Network%20(2010)
But LOOK at that kink meme! It's ten parts long! But somehow, TSN is "rare for yuletide"? If you'd tried to nominate it in 2012 you'd have been laughed at.
https://tsn-kinkmeme.livejournal.com/