coaltide | This is Yuletide, everybody make a scene

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This is Yuletide, everybody make a scene

I am the sock with the tear-away face

Low-effort with your gift and gone without a trace

I am the "who" when you call, "Who does an exchange without acknowledging their gift?"
I am the wanker blowing through your fics comments
I am the coalie dragging your letter at night
Filling your exchange to the brim with fright!

This is Coaltide!

Nominations: Tuesday 22 September to Thursday 1 October

Sign-ups: Friday 16 October to Monday 26 October

Assignments out: between 26 & 28 October

Default deadline: Friday 11 December

Assignment Deadline: Friday 18 December

Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. F_F wiki for history.

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is this the lie you’re trying to push, morbane? it would work better if you anonfailed while peddling it

I was the one who nominated the fandom. I hadn't checked AO3 and FFN because I had assumed it was a tiny fandom based on the last time I had checked, so that was my mistake. I left the mods a note it was too big. It's only fair.

Wasn't just you, though, unless you used socks? Six characters...

Hope there are other things you can request, anyway.

Stay mad, you weirdo.

AYRT

I absolutely love it (I probably watch it at least once a year), so I’m so glad you nominated it! I’m also excited as well to find other people who like it.

Well, when I say crunchy in this context, I mostly mean that I, when writing, have to work to get the effect I want. For RPF, this mostly means research and thinking and understanding how to really express the themes I'm interested in and can see in the history. I also want, though who knows how effective I am, for my reader to be able to have a deeper reading experience if they want it.

That is... gross and appealing. I shall investigate further. Thank you, though I can tell I already want brain bleach.

Los Espookys is funny and charming!

From ‘Eligible Nominations for Yuletide 2020’ (9/12/2020): Fandoms will be approved if their total number of qualifying stories on archiveofourown.org and fanfiction.net, added together, is less than 1,000. A story must be in English, complete, and at least 1,000 words long to be a qualifying story. Crossovers are included in the total.

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These fandom labels are considered too broad and will not be accepted regardless of numbers:
Actor RPF, Ancient History RPF, [country] Actor RPF, Literary RPF, Music RPF, Sports RPF, History RPF.

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Real Person Fiction
Character nominations are required. A person who is tagged in over 1,000 works on AO3 (unfiltered) is not eligible in any RPF category.

In addition to fandoms that are excluded for being too broad (Actor RPF, Ancient History RPF, [country] Actor RPF, Literary RPF, Music RPF, Sports RPF, and History RPF), some RPF fandoms, such as Hockey RPF, are too big. Sports teams are acceptable fandoms when a sport as a whole has too many fics.

We will not accept Donald Trump, people who are famous for willing participation in the Nazi regime, or serial killers alive after 1900.

Please err on the side of a narrow rather than a broad label for an RPF category (i.e., nominate by groups of connected people, rather than just by century or profession.). The less specific the fandom name, the more likely it is to be rejected - even if it is a canonical tag on AO3. The fandom name must be a clear and accurate description of the group nominated. The looser the connection between the characters and the fandom, the less likely the fandom or all the characters are to be accepted (for example, we will sometimes allow partners of characters nominated in an RPF fandom; but we would not generally allow their friends. Similarly, for a sports team we'd allow players, surrounding staff etc, but not rivals). RPF characters must be famous in their own right, regardless of whether or not they have a relationship with a famous person.

If there are multiple nominated RPF fandoms with closely overlapping lists, the fandoms may be merged - so we encourage you to coordinate with fellow fans when nominating. Please also pay attention to the nominations clarification posts that go up on this community as we sort tags, just in case we have questions about your category.

From ’Tag Set Now Open!’ (9/22/2020): RPF and Anthropomorphic fandoms must be nominated with characters.

From ‘Nominations Warnings’ (9/27/2020): Please err on the side of a narrow rather than a broad label for an RPF category, even if the broad label is what AO3 offers you as a canonical. For example, 20th Century Literary RPF is too broad.

Important: You do not have to use a tag that already exists on the Archive. By all means, use it if it fits, but when, for example, the form suggests 'Actor RPF', ignore the suggestion and input your own choice.

From ‘Last Day to Nominate - Allow for Archive Downtime’ (9/30/2020): RPF fandoms will not approved if the fandom is too big or too vague - this is as well as the eligibility test applied to their characters. RPF and anthropomorphic fandoms need to be nominated with characters; for other types of fandom, whether to nominate characters is up to you.

So! This is the entirety of what the mods had to say about RPF nominations, before and during the nominations period* - and nowhere in there is a suggestion to read back through previous years' decisions to figure out if you're trying to nominate something that has previously run afoul of the rules. Nor is there any guidance re: giving evidence for RPF in any of the discussion of posting to the evidence post. I'll grant you that the coalie in question should probs have at least named the category something like LGBT British/English Monarchs or similar, since that would have brought it into the realm of more specific the mods prefer - and that an evidence post could also have helped - but if the mods want people to know *in general* that they don’t want to make rulings about how historical figures might have identified, then they should put a line about that in the rules. No categories explicitly based on identity head-canons sounds pretty solid to me!

*Aside from the digression in comments about whether it was fair to not apply the 'in English' filter to RPF characters.

DA

I disagree with whether the mods should have let that in, but that's still a useful and clear summary of the information available, so props to you, coalie.

Oh my god grandma

If those are IT skills then popping a Tylenol is medical expertise

CYRT

Oh, I dunno that I'm even arguing that it should've been let in *as nominated*, since last year's similar case at least had the good sense to throw a nationality into their fandom name*! Mainly I'm on team 'the rules need to ACTUALLY be in the rules' and team 'no, actually, you're the one who needs to have read the rules, I believe'. Still, thanks - I don't come to play when it comes to things that you can gather concrete evidence for!

*and last year's case wouldn't even have helped name this year's because this is a much more gen-focused nominator!

I don't understand how you can simultaneously grasp the idea that being the public face of a team is a specific role played by a person who doesn't necessarily do everything else or make all other decisions, AND claim that Jenn singlehandedly screwed up comics. You're so close. Newsflash: people got annoyed at Jenn because she was the face of unpopular decisions and made some brusque comments. You can stop there.

OP, fuck off already.

Or, if you're just someone who wants to believe that stupid nonsense could ever happen in fandom, fuck off as well. But wake up while you're at it.

Cross fire! I didn't think it had any fandom around it, it's giving me an incentive to finish the drama soon. I've been stuck for ages...

Oh, my God. Why the hell are you getting so aggressive over this? It's pretty clear that a number of people here have modding experience and that the people you're responding to are talking about people becoming a mod/wrangler/etc of an established exchange, which doesn't usually occur via Discord. Becoming a mod of a brand new, or less established, exchange, is sometimes different, especially if you're starting your own. I don't anyone here is "boasting", either, just stating the obvious that having at least someone on your mod team with at least some basic IT skills is important, not in the least because WYSIWG is an ironic name for a product if ever there were one. IDK if you're just anxious about your own lack of IT skills, or if you can't comprehend what is being said: IT skills are useful when modding exchanges, and become more important the bigger your exchange is.

Dude, it's pretty clear they are modding, or have modded in the past.

There's always been plenty of crazies involved in fandom. Yuletide is no exception.

Pot kettle black, aggressive coalie.

There's a few different parties involved in this thread for sure and the most aggressive person seems to be the coalie who is shouting about how all the people modding huge exchanges like Yuletide can be total luddites because IT skills apparently aren't needed online. I don't think that coalie is the OP, but who the fuck knows.

Regarding the stuff about the mods, I think OC's story is more a cautionary tale about fandom crazies, and making decisions too hastily, than anything else. If any of OC's story happened, the mods were misled by a manipulative person who framed innocent people. (Happens to the police and judiciary in real life all the time.) As was said somewhere above, mods aren't saints, can make mistakes, and sometimes trust people they shouldn't, or make decisions too quickly, or are sloppy. Most mods are pretty reasonable, but some are certainly either abusive of their power or lazy or inconsistent when wielding that power.

That’s a reasonable reframing, except for how it’s what that OP wants us to think, and their story is such an intermediate term project in gaslighting that I’m just left wondering what their angle is. Are they leading up to telling us about a specific fandom wank in which they were totally fraaaaaaaaamed?

Ffs, don’t these busybodies have anything better to do than fuck up someone else’s enjoyment of fanfic? Get a life!

I haven’t even heard of this fandom and I’m annoyed.

When fandom was more cohesive, you could turn the tables bringing all their horribleness to light in namespace and they'd usually stop being horrible to you.

I'm sorry you're dealing with scary people

This is why I'd legit rather go to the DMV than deal with the yuletide mods.

At least at the DMV you have a decent chance of having a pleasant experience if you're polite to your local beaurocrat

lol

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