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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2019-11-05 04:27 am
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It was the Coal of Times

It was the best of assignments, it was the worst of assignments, it was the age of gaming your offers, it was the age of forgetting to remove that one fandom from your offers, it was the epoch of treat writing, it was the epoch of apocapinch-hits, it was the season of fics of your dreams, it was the season of explicit DNW spitefic, it was the spring of hope that the anon in the comment above is writing for you, it was the winter of ars_belli is your author.

Prompts revealed and Madness opens: Approx 9 November
Default deadline: 11 December, 9am UTC
Assignment deadline: 18 December, 9am UTC
Main Collection Reveals: 25 December (time tba)

Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. Fail_fandom wiki for wank history.
 

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Can someone explain for this coal noob what "anti" means?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
The type of person who uses “problematic” aspects of fiction (age gaps, underage, racism, sexism, etc.) and twist it into saying ships are not only not for them, but morally unacceptable for anyone to ship or kink on.

Some people also use it to dismiss anyone who has even the mildest concern or criticism of social issues in fandom.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
SC

I suppose I should emphasize that, for the first paragraph, an anti argument would be, like, 25 Year Old/His Childhood Best Friend’s 31-Year Old Older Brother would be pedophilic incest because of the slight gap and them having grown up around each up, and also racist because why are you ignoring his brown best friend, even though the older brother they’re calling a pedo rapist is also brown. It can be ridiculous to the extreme.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
Don't forget that any fic between two characters who grew up together is incest, especially if they ever say 'like the brother I always wanted' or something similar. ;)
(This one varies between antis but I have seen it come up)

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
DC

And sometimes somehow a relationship between two middle-aged men is pedophilic because one of them was "child-coded". Or because character A is the on the bottom, but it's somehow not pedophilic if character B is on the bottom. And we're still talking about two men in their goddamn 40s.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-07 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, Johnlock, still a warning to others after all these years.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Link for in depth explanation: https://failfandomanon.fandom.com/wiki/Antis
Anti is short for "anti-shipper." These are people who focus their emotional energy on pairings they hate. Antis assign buzzwords to ships they dislike to get people on their side - for example, Rey/Kylo Ren isn't just not your cup of tea, it's abusive and gaslighting - and them claim that anyone who writes that ship supports those things happening in real life.
Additionally, many believe that fanfics about unhealthy relationships /cause/ unhealthy relationships. Therefore, it is an anti's solemn moral duty to stop people from writing darkfic, including doxxing, harassing, whisper campaigns, and suicide baiting authors, in order to protect their potential readers.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
different coalie

To add, antis also sometimes obsess over non-shipping-related aspects of canons or creators they hate - for example, if you heard about that teenage girl in the Steven Universe fandom a couple years back who was bullied into attempting suicide over fanart, the people doing the bullying were antis who'd started a harassment campaign over her drawing a character too thin.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my fucking god.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Every person in that situation sounds dumb. Some also sound malicious and wrong, and it's not a crime to be dumb, but everybody sounds dumb.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Even one more coalie to add on that one of the newer anti fads is the fujoshi thing. Their collective hive mind believes that m/m shippers are all straight women fetishizing gays and ruining the community, especially if they ship it as anything more than pure love. They refuse to believe that m/m shippers can be male or nonbinary, or not cis, or not heterosexual. Fujoshi has become a monolith of "gross stop sexualizing the gays you nasty pervert predators!!!!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Extra special is when they tell these "fujoshi" to gtfo of Japanese and Chinese canons that were written by and for that market in the first place. It's all over English-language cnovel fandom. How fucking dense can you get.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
CYRT

Christ, I've seen that too, it pisses me off so bad. There's no level of critical thinking whatsoever and no awareness of anything outside themselves and the very narrow set of morals they deem acceptable. To me, that puritanical black-or-white thinking and authoritarian attitudes toward anyone who disagrees make antis a genuine issue in fandom, not just annoying wank.