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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2019-11-05 04:27 am
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It was the Coal of Times

It was the best of assignments, it was the worst of assignments, it was the age of gaming your offers, it was the age of forgetting to remove that one fandom from your offers, it was the epoch of treat writing, it was the epoch of apocapinch-hits, it was the season of fics of your dreams, it was the season of explicit DNW spitefic, it was the spring of hope that the anon in the comment above is writing for you, it was the winter of ars_belli is your author.

Prompts revealed and Madness opens: Approx 9 November
Default deadline: 11 December, 9am UTC
Assignment deadline: 18 December, 9am UTC
Main Collection Reveals: 25 December (time tba)

Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. Fail_fandom wiki for wank history.
 

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
aelisheva? What makes you say this? They're requesting quite a few of my canons and I was thinking of picking them up.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Calling Peter B. Parker/Miles pedophilic in their letter was the first clue. It's also hosted on their Tumblr which links to their Before You Follow page that's anti up and down (nO fUjOsHi)

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I couldn't see the link to that page on mobile, so reloaded in desktop view. Thanks.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
But...Peter's 38 and Miles is 13. That is pedophilic.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
No, real people in a romantic/sexual relationship with those ages is pedophilic.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
There's no way to write it as non-predatory without aging Miles up.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
True, but there's already dimension hopping. No reason it can't be dimension hopping plus time travel and now, tada, Miles is 32.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, but unless she specifically says that any and all versions of Miles/Peter are pedophilic no matter what, even if you manage to write away the age gap, no takebacks, then she's not actually wrong about 13/38 being a predatory relationship by default.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
DC

I think you're completely missing the point. It's wanky to call a NOTP pedophilic rather than just saying DNW.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Eh.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but that’d be a pretty significant change from the actual canon. Some ships can fundamentally have dirtybadwrong aspects to them, coalie, it’s fine. Probably it’s even a draw to some people. But clearly not to this person. That’s the least of their request wankiness.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
People in fandom who aren't antis usually call such ships "underage." Antis, the types that think consuming/creating fiction about something means you condone or practice it irl, always call those ships "pedophilia." Combined with the "no fujoshis" thing it's pretty clear this person is an anti.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
+1

In tumblr parlance, saying 'pedophilic ships' has very different connotations to 'underage ships'. The former means they think people who read/write those ships are pedophiles IRL.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
+1

What the coalie before me said. If you spend any amount of time in a fandom with antis the distinction becomes clear really fast. You're a real life pedo if you ship underage! It's been hurled at my friends and I too often. One friend is ballsy enough to tell them their story of being a victim of pedophilia, and to point out how demeaning it is to survivors to equate fictional age difference shipping with a real life atrocity, but the vast majority of them refuse to make that distinction.

It's cool if you DNW underage, or power imbalances, or noncon. It's not cool if you claim they equate to real life pedophilia, abuse and rape. Antis are seriously wild.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
DNW Peter/Miles = not wanky

DNW Peter/Miles omg so gross you're disgusting for shipping it = wanky

(Anonymous) 2019-11-06 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh well