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Re: How to write better porn, especially emotional intimacy
(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 01:23 am (UTC)(link)+1000
Even PWPs need an emotional arc! Even if that arc is basically just horniness.
Even PWPs need an emotional arc! Even if that arc is basically just horniness.
Rip Van Coalie just woke up from their 15-year nap.
The main reason I want more female alphas is my kink is well-worldbuilt alternate biology and it's not inherently impossible with omegaverse! There's fish that have x/y/w sex chromosomes and three each different male and female phenotypes, there's birds that do the "alphas must pair with omegas" thing. But there's not really even anywhere to start if you don't have a norm for what's up with the females. Your average all m/m alpha/omega fic is basically biology equivalent to male/female, and that's just boring to worldbuild the biology any farther.
Good news: I am steadily adding more and more to my outline.
Bad news: I am steadily adding more and more to my outline.
Bad news: I am steadily adding more and more to my outline.
Thanks, coalie, that's really interesting.
As per the app & their gifts page, audries did Yuletide 2013.
Onomatopoetikon hasn't done Yuletide before, but has done a handful of other exchanges.
Your data immediately debunks the "last-minute sign-up?" theory, because only myimmortalpresident is all that close to the last hours.
Though some of the others could have put a blank sign-up in at first, meant to come back, and not quite managed it.
Interesting that for all the complaints about blank sign-ups, this is 18 people out of 1341. And several of those have some past details to go on.
As per the app & their gifts page, audries did Yuletide 2013.
Onomatopoetikon hasn't done Yuletide before, but has done a handful of other exchanges.
Your data immediately debunks the "last-minute sign-up?" theory, because only myimmortalpresident is all that close to the last hours.
Though some of the others could have put a blank sign-up in at first, meant to come back, and not quite managed it.
Interesting that for all the complaints about blank sign-ups, this is 18 people out of 1341. And several of those have some past details to go on.
we've got a couple of them, there was someone around who had never heard of blorbo also
NC
I believe you, but this is the exact opposite of why I do fandom. I would never be in a fandom if I didn't like the source material. I read fanfic when the canon was great but it wasn't enough, and I want more of it.
I believe you, but this is the exact opposite of why I do fandom. I would never be in a fandom if I didn't like the source material. I read fanfic when the canon was great but it wasn't enough, and I want more of it.
But if you don't like anything about the canon, there's nothing worth fixing.
What are some examples of antis who participate in Yuletide?
Prompt: hairy duck fart
DNW: hairy duck fart (I'm just really particular about where the hair goes!)
DNW: hairy duck fart (I'm just really particular about where the hair goes!)
Everyone in my favorite fandom has posted a letter except one person. But their one sentence sign up is exactly what I want to write so I’m not that upset about it.
I do hope they update this weekend.
I do hope they update this weekend.
There's a lot in my fandom, but it's specifically female!alpha/male!omega femdom and/or mpreg, which is not my cuppa.
The fics that stand out most to your mind from Yuletides long gone, and not because they were written for your own request OR because of wank surrounding them. Go.
I tend to like the characters (or sometimes just the actors and the *idea* of the characters) but not what the story does with them or where it takes them.
Re: Most memorable non-gift non-wanky Yuletide fic of old
(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 07:50 am (UTC)(link)The Zhuangzi translation theory fic!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/35777350
https://archiveofourown.org/works/35777350
Re: Most memorable non-gift non-wanky Yuletide fic of old
(Anonymous) 2024-11-01 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)Haven OT3 fic, a Dead Like Me fic from decades ago, Ea-Nasir/Nanni
lol harry potter but there has never been a better for canon for "this is kind of fun but it is flawed as fuck and now I can fix it". shame jkr ruined it by being an anti-trans bigot.
This is Star Wars for me, except replace JKR with Star Wars Bros and anti-trans with anti everything.
Oh, that's really cool!
So yeah, 1.3% of signups are blank, which means you've got a 98.7% of not getting one, definitely worth all the effort to worry about (definitely believable that the same coalies have been matching on them repeatedly every year!)
I stuck your list in other coalie's participation spreadsheet from last post and got:
amyezekiel - 4 years
Arcticmist - new
argonautical (Argonaut1724) - new
audries *- new
ConfusedCyndaquil - new
CyrilOdahviing - new
Fmnds - 7 years
kkulecru - new
lefemmerouge - new
Marien - 19 years
myimmortalpresident - new
NarielAlan - 1 year
Onomatopoetikon - new
PlayerProphet - 4
sylviarachel - 1
TrixySpirit - new
ultraviolet_glow - new
water_bby - new
Which lines up with your data, I think. *It looks like audries signed up but defaulted in 2013, and that's their only previous experience
Which also means if you do match on that blank signup, there's a 73% chance they're either a first-timer or second-timer. There's only four people who've been doing Yuletide repeatedly and did a blank signup this year. So you're probably better off assuming they're a newbie following the written rules like they thought they were supposed to, and being kind in what you gift them, than assuming they're a jerk and being a jerk.
It's probably also a good idea to not write a new person something like omegaverse or hanahaki that presumes a lot of fandom experience, or some kind of very extreme or unusual kink they may not have ever encountered before, at least not if you ever want them to do an exchange again. But it's also probably not a good idea to worry a whole lot about whether they have lots of fanon they're expecting you to share, or have secret hidden likes, or are lying in wait to judge you for writing something you should have known they wouldn't want. They're probably a newbie who wants a fic of some kind for a small fandom and hasn't really got strong preferences or enough experience to know if they want to DNW anything.
So yeah, 1.3% of signups are blank, which means you've got a 98.7% of not getting one, definitely worth all the effort to worry about (definitely believable that the same coalies have been matching on them repeatedly every year!)
I stuck your list in other coalie's participation spreadsheet from last post and got:
amyezekiel - 4 years
Arcticmist - new
argonautical (Argonaut1724) - new
audries *- new
ConfusedCyndaquil - new
CyrilOdahviing - new
Fmnds - 7 years
kkulecru - new
lefemmerouge - new
Marien - 19 years
myimmortalpresident - new
NarielAlan - 1 year
Onomatopoetikon - new
PlayerProphet - 4
sylviarachel - 1
TrixySpirit - new
ultraviolet_glow - new
water_bby - new
Which lines up with your data, I think. *It looks like audries signed up but defaulted in 2013, and that's their only previous experience
Which also means if you do match on that blank signup, there's a 73% chance they're either a first-timer or second-timer. There's only four people who've been doing Yuletide repeatedly and did a blank signup this year. So you're probably better off assuming they're a newbie following the written rules like they thought they were supposed to, and being kind in what you gift them, than assuming they're a jerk and being a jerk.
It's probably also a good idea to not write a new person something like omegaverse or hanahaki that presumes a lot of fandom experience, or some kind of very extreme or unusual kink they may not have ever encountered before, at least not if you ever want them to do an exchange again. But it's also probably not a good idea to worry a whole lot about whether they have lots of fanon they're expecting you to share, or have secret hidden likes, or are lying in wait to judge you for writing something you should have known they wouldn't want. They're probably a newbie who wants a fic of some kind for a small fandom and hasn't really got strong preferences or enough experience to know if they want to DNW anything.
And just to be stalky, of the four non-newbies this year:
amyezekiel usually has short prompts (although a few times they've given prompts for some fandoms and blank on others, not great!)
Fmnds usually at least puts in DNWs, although they seem to be going lower-effort every year - last time they signed up they had copy-pasted DNWs and a placeholder letter (not great!)
Marien has done a blank signup every year since the app has let you search by user.
PlayerProphet has done reasonably extensive prompts every other year they signed up.
So if you want to complain about the people who sign up every year with a blank signup and should know better, as opposed to newbies or people having an off year ... I guess you're talking about Marien specifically? Is Marien the sole legitimate source of blank singup wank? Although looking at their AO3, they seem to be yuletide-only - they have 21 yuletide or NYR fics and five small-book-fandom fics posted in January or February and that's it - so I suspect they have no idea about all the unwritten expectations either. And they do leave nice comments on all their gifts, frankly I'd be happy to match.
amyezekiel usually has short prompts (although a few times they've given prompts for some fandoms and blank on others, not great!)
Fmnds usually at least puts in DNWs, although they seem to be going lower-effort every year - last time they signed up they had copy-pasted DNWs and a placeholder letter (not great!)
Marien has done a blank signup every year since the app has let you search by user.
PlayerProphet has done reasonably extensive prompts every other year they signed up.
So if you want to complain about the people who sign up every year with a blank signup and should know better, as opposed to newbies or people having an off year ... I guess you're talking about Marien specifically? Is Marien the sole legitimate source of blank singup wank? Although looking at their AO3, they seem to be yuletide-only - they have 21 yuletide or NYR fics and five small-book-fandom fics posted in January or February and that's it - so I suspect they have no idea about all the unwritten expectations either. And they do leave nice comments on all their gifts, frankly I'd be happy to match.
JKR even believes, or believed, circa the publication of her essay, that gender identity can be a thing and that some people can be trans. She said she referred to, and thought of, the trans people she knew according to their claimed identity.
You're just mad that she also thinks that women should be able to organise on the basis of their sex, that women should be entitled to single-sex provision in spaces they are vulnerable, and that you can't cow her because she's earned so much money that she never needs to fear losing a job.
You're just mad that she also thinks that women should be able to organise on the basis of their sex, that women should be entitled to single-sex provision in spaces they are vulnerable, and that you can't cow her because she's earned so much money that she never needs to fear losing a job.
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