coaltide | Morbane's coal

In quantum wankchanics, Morbane's coal is a thought experiment, sometimes described as a paradox, of quantum wankerposition. In the thought experiment, a hypothetical gift may be considered simultaneously both the fic of your dreams (TFOYD) and coal, while it is unread state, as a result of its fate being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur.

The Coaltide interpretation implies that, after a while, the gift is simultaneously TFOYD and coal. Yet, when a coalie clicks on their gift, the coalie sees the gift either TFOYD or coal, not both TFOYD and coal. This poses the question of when exactly quantum wankerposition ends and reality resolves into one possibility or the other.

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You don't even need to check the gift itself, you can already see it on your profile. If you never go to either the gift or your profile again after you posted that gift, then it's probably a non-issue anyway lol.

Maybe rejecting a gift after two weeks or two months will fly under the radar. Insta-rejecting a gift rarely does.

...do people typically have their assignment count memorized? Do people typically browse their own fic profiles and actually notice the details? This is not consistent with my experience.

Most people will notice if a work they just gifted someone and are eagerly waiting for comments and kudos on suddenly isn't gifted to that person anymore.

A couple months later? Maybe not, if you really must reject a gift and you wait a couple months to do it probably nobody will notice. But in the anon period they almost definitely will.

I think you are assuming a level of surveillance and investment that is inconsistent with many exchange participants'.

I really don't think they are.

What are you even talking about? Rejection doesn't change your assignment count, so memorizing it isn't relevant. If you look on your profile or the fandom page or the ship page or literally anywhere where your fic appears, it says "[title] for [recipient]". When the recip rejects, the "for [recipient]" is gone. You'd have to be incredibly unobservant not to notice that about a fic that only just revealed.

Nonny, I can count on one hand the number of times I have looked at headers of my own work after posting. I scroll right to the bottom. Half the time I don't even remember which things I've posted are gifts. This is what I'm saying, you are relying on a feature that isn't intended for this use and making wild assumptions about what other people will do or notice that I am dubious actually play out how you expect IRL, all so you can avoid having to either explicitly communicate distaste or suck it up and tell a white lie for the sake of the group activity.

You don't have to look at the header, you don't even have to open the work at all. It shows directly on your dashboard and on your works page.

Yeah, I don't spend much time at all on my dashboard. Why would I?

Half the time I don't even remember which things I've posted are gifts

Well, if you're so casual about it, then who cares? You won't notice anyway, so why are you going on about how rude it is?

...because I know not everyone is me, not everyone approaches exchanges the same way I do, and not everyone notices the same stuff. Subjectivity of human experience is real. It's why manners tend to favor either clear communication or polite white lies.

Rejection is extremely clear to everyone except you, Seymour Skinner.

OK, good luck with your bizarre and passive-aggressive exchange style, you clearly have nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

It's like rain on your wedding day...

And sometimes people compromise and find other communication strategies that rely on implications and mutual understanding of norms. Like saying "how are you?" which is commonly understood not to invite a lengthy honest answer to - in exchanges - say "thank you for writing." and know a lot of exchange regulars will get that it means "thanks but no thanks". It also means that some people, like you, will not understand the intended meaning and will take them literally and that's also an acceptable outcome.

I'm not sure who you think you're responding to here? My contention is that a rejection is not communication, literally, because of how the feature works, so it may or may not accomplish what you want, and if everyone behaved like that (rejecting rule-following gifts they happen to dislike) exchanges would be unpleasant and unmanageable, which is why most people outside of a very specific anon-meme milieu think it's rude to do.

Rejection is communication to anyone who is not so careless and inconsiderate about what they gift that they literally forget something was written for someone else. Seriously. You are being the unpleasant and unmanageable participant here.

Nonny, it's not communication because nothing is communicated to the gifter. It's an operational issue. You can rend your garments all you want about my or anyone else's bad memory or lack of attention, but it's just silly to rely on a non-notifying system to notify someone of something.

It's communicated to anyone who cares about the gifts they give to people, which obviously leaves you right out.

You just prove yourself a disruptive and nasty participant over and over while trying to stick it to everyone else. Smh.

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Even if they don't notice the rejection, they probably notice the lack of comment.

And on the unlikely chance that they don't notice and it continues to be an issue, you can always employ more direct methods and explicitly tell them to leave you alone.

This thread is a ride and I want to get off

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