And another one!

[coalcube]

I see my nemesis getting a fic that I love
And I'm like, "Fuck you" 
I guess my 10k letter wasn't enough
I'm like, "Fuck you and fuck morbane, too"
Said, "If I was a long commenter, they woulda gamed for me"
Ha, now ain't that some shit?
(Ain't that some shit?)
And although there's pain in my chest
I still comment it's the best
And runs to coal to shout "Fuck you" 

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[(Anonymous)]

I feel like the no obligation thing is what makes the gift more special. They didn't pick it out of a list, they had to go with the assignment they were given and write something you'd be happy with - I feel like that takes more effort and is worth more of my gratitude than picking a prompt you like/already have ideas for.

[(Anonymous)]

nope. treats are great and i love to give and receive them. but i think it's rude to act like they are more important than the original gift.

[(Anonymous)]

Why wouldn't I reward someone's hard work on a gift for me, regardless of why they did it? I praise all my gifts as much as I can.

[(Anonymous)]

yes, and all my comments are long and effusive and genuine! I just think it's nice to load the main gift up the most, and it is surprising to me that that's not standard!

[(Anonymous)]

NCYRT

You can’t always tell if something is a treat or not if both stories are in the main collection and neither is tagged as such. And I don’t think people were saying the treat is more important just that they are treated equally (all else being equal).

But also honestly, the only obligation recips have is to comment and thank the writer for their gift at minimum, most people don’t super promo their gifts nor are invested in how many comments or attention it gets.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

It takes more effort, but the effort is done in order to guarantee your own gift. It's the thing you do because that's how you take part in an exchange.

Treats, on the other hand, are just for the recip. There's absolutely nothing in it for the writer other than the recip's potential happiness.

To me it's like the difference between regular work and pro bono work.

[(Anonymous)]

This is so bizarre to me. Y'all care about the weirdest things.

[(Anonymous)]

this came up in the discord bc people were discussing whether or not you should tag treats and it shocked me that people would knowingly NOT tag them. I just assumed people forgot. I certainly have loved a treat more than my main gift, but I wouldnt want my writer to know that.

[(Anonymous)]

You're on coal

[(Anonymous)]

So what are you going to do if you love a treat more than your main gift and you don't want to let on?

Fake excitement for your main gift? Or hold back on squeeing about your treat? Because either of that seems really shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I find the idea of the writer caring about that to be bizarre, I don’t even really look at what else my recip receives or if I am treating someone what their main writer gives them. I think it’s a little silly and is not disrespectful at all. The only disrespect that a recip can show is by not commenting at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I've mostly been lucky in that my main gifts are great, but when I do like the treat more, i try and make the comments equal-ish, as much as i can without padding, which i agree would be shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

lolol fair point!

[(Anonymous)]

if we had assignments we could just argue about those instead

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

I guess I can see that. Personally I don't do exchanges to get a gift, I could honestly take or leave the gift - I do them because making something FOR somebody is really motivating and joyful, and I prioritise my assignment over any treats I'm working on if I'm low on time/energy.

[(Anonymous)]

DC

I confess that I do check my recip's other comments. And when I see that they seem to like their other gift better, I either think "oh yeah, wow, this one is really good" or I think "huh, looks like we have an id mismatch because this one is totally meh". But I wouldn't ever think "how disrespectful of them to prefer another fic over mine".

[(Anonymous)]

The person who had to write something vs the person who found my ideas inspiring and chose to? I don't understand why that would mean prioritizing the assigned writer's feelings over the treat writers.

You're weird, and people should comment based on how much they liked the story.

[(Anonymous)]

SC

The only reason I would mention as a writer that it’s a treat is because I want to let that person know that I was inspired by their request, but that is more a compliment on them than me deflecting to their other writer.

[(Anonymous)]

ok well that isnt what i meant! it's obviously not disrespectful to have preferences and opinions! I just think it's polite to comment on your main gift first and be polite to that person!

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I tag treats because if I do something extra for someone, I want them to know it. It's certainly not because I think of treats as less important.

[(Anonymous)]

(i'm op)
yeah this is my approach as well. like, my main reason for doing an exchange is to craft something my recip will hopefully really like, and it's fine if we missmatch and i can take the L, it's just that I think of my main gift as the main focus so it surprises me that that's not what people are thinking from the recip end

[(Anonymous)]

Cyrt

I comment politely on all the gifts I receive (excluding DNW hitting gifts). My order of commenting depends on the fic length and the fandom/tropes, not on who wrote the gift and why.

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

Different approaches to exchanges, I guess. I do exchanges for the gift, so treats (both creating and receiving) are always really special.

(Though, like I said, in practice my reaction entirely depends on how much I like the gift, even if I feel very warmly towards anyone who took the extra time and effort to treat me.)

press the button

[(Anonymous)]

d o it