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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2023-09-17 01:42 pm
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Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus. No one is coming for you, coalie. You can keep AO3. Plenty of fans of all races are using it. Yes, you can make your own decisions. Get off your cross.

he Asian candidates who just ran for Board think it's worth saving.

It's also true that many people have felt hurt or frustrated on it and recent conversations have provided the last straw. A lot of the information that came out in recent months about volunteer treatment is incredibly disheartening.

Elections volunteers fought back when a previous board ousted a Black treasurer in, er, convoluted ways, then tried to re-elect another Board member in extremely underhanded ways - but Elections committee just passed a supremely racist question on to Zixin Z claiming their hands were tied because it was policy all questions got answered.

Tag Wrangling volunteering is, according to my volunteer friends, a fairly chill group where it's easy to focus on the parts of the archive you love and hang out with enthusiasts, but Tag Wrangling chairs just Nice White Lady'd dhobikikutti.

Communications volunteers posted announcements about strategic updates and mentioned EOTWR, but didn't even think that that topic would require immediate and careful monitoring of the comments, so the post immediately got people complaining about free speech and dropping racist dogwhistles, some of which stayed up for hours.


I don't want you to "fall into line". I would like it if you would acknowledge that AO3 does not always handle things well and some of the people who are upset have pretty strong reasons to be upset. Even if you didn't personally witness anything outrageous they experienced.

Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
It's kind of hilarious that you claim you don't want me to fall in line and in the very next sentence say you would like me to fall in line.

Look, I'm quite ready to agree that there's racism on the org... just as soon as someone shows facts instead of vague allegations.

Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
NC Congratulations. You, coalie, win coaltide's "worse than Gheyn" award!

Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
Aaaand here we are. Wanting evidence = racism. Nice going there, asshole.

Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, if people keep saying "here's a link to racism", "here's multiple instances of racism", "here's a form of racism you acknowledge exists," and you say "but show me the real racism", then all anyone needs to do is hold up a mirror.

Re: Most likely to cause wank this season

(Anonymous) 2023-09-25 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Look, the nutheadgee thing I (and another person, who was a tiny bit faster) linked contains actual, direct examples. That's a black woman who flat out says "mixies need to be oppressed harder" under her own name, on her own social media (now in an archive because she deleted later) and with screencaps of her own Ao3 (because she's somehow convinced she's in the right).

I want that. Something clear and direct, not a vague "someone was racist to me". It really shouldn't be hard to get a screencap of an Ao3 comment with the n-word or literally ANYTHING.

Instead all I get is more vague bullshit. Literally none of the things that got linked here (except for the nutheadgee thing I and another coalie linked) are actual examples. Everything else is vague allegations with no direct examples or quotes or screencaps.

The dhobikikutti dreamwidth thing, for example, SAYS there was racism, but doesn't expand or explain or quote or ANYTHING. She never comes out and says a fellow volunteer used a slur, or ignored her, or anything direct. Just "there was racism" and then everyone is supposed to accept that with literally zero way to verify.