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Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

If they let me nominate more than three things, I wouldn't have to nominate with a sock... Honestly, I think increasing the limit from three to, let's say, five or six would significantly decrease the number of people who nom with socks.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

But the point is to get you to offer more than you can nominate. If nominations go to 5 or 6, are you comfortable offering 6 or 7?

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who never offers anything she nominates, it didn't even occur to me that this was the thinking. I nominate things I want to request. I will typically only request things I've nominated. I will also typically have more than 3 requests. Ergo, I need more than 3 nom slots.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

SA

And on the subject of request matchability, all it really takes is some promo and keeping an eye on the requests summary as the exchange progresses. I've never been a Yuletide IPH or unmatchable despite only requesting self-nommed fandoms. OTOH I could easily make myself entirely unmatchable by only requesting fandoms nommed by other people but asking for very complicated or obscure stuff.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, interesting. I'm usually a mix (I requested 2 fandoms I nominated this year and 1 I didn't, offers split 2:2). I don't think it's bad logic to say everyone should offer at least one fandom they didn't put forth themselves, since the whole point is you're writing for someone else. But obviously it's not foolproof.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

The thinking isn't that you're supposed to offer what you nominate (I usually don't either) but that people need to be offering and/or requesting other people's noms. If you could nom six, offer six, and request six, you'd end up with a situation where a lot of people would nom, offer, and request the same six, and nobody's signups would overlap enough to be matchable.

By making it that you have to offer at least one thing you didn't nominate, and you have to request at least as many as you nominated, in theory nearly everybody is matchable (and if you changed it even more - so that you have to offer twice as many as you nominated, or you have to request more than you nominated - people would overlap even more and be even more matchable.)

But if there's a bunch of extra nominations, that throws the numbers off.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

da

It also means Yuletide would drastically shrink because a lot of people in tiny fandoms would have nothing to request.

And you're ignoring that everyone already IS matchable on offers. There's not a single participant out there who offers nothing someone else requests. That's why we have the "contact unmatchables" 24 hours period.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

Well, yes. But they've changed those numbers before and somehow yuletide survived!

The contact unmatchables phase involves people being asked if they can add offers. So yes, sometimes people already need to offer more than the minimum number in order to be matchable.

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

They've changed those numbers, sure, but if the number of requests are higher than the number of nominations that's more along the lines of the inane "things need to be nominated by two people to make it into the tagset" idea they had for five seconds a few years ago before the outrage made them reconsider. Yuletide is a rare fandom exchange. Forcing people to request something they didn't nominate would, for many people, mean a) they don't sign up, b) they have sign ups with a "I don't really want this fandom but I had to add a sixth request" note (joy!), or c) bring out the socks.

It creates much more problems than it solves. Which isn't hard, because it solves precisely zero.

The contact unmatchables phase involves people being asked if they can add offers. So yes, sometimes people already need to offer more than the minimum number in order to be matchable.

And they do, and then everyone is matchable. I don't see what reducing nominations would change there, other than maybe reduce the number of unmatchables before assignments go out. Which was, what? Five this year? A real problem that needs to be addressed, clearly! /s

Re: Four IPHs left

[(Anonymous)]

How does that fix the problem? The problem (supposedly) is the total number of nominations per person, not the number of socks being used.