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[(Anonymous)]

holiday fics for yuletide? yay or nay coalies?

[(Anonymous)]

It's not something I'd consider opt-in. I don't like them, but that's why I DNW them.

[(Anonymous)]

for some reason, I thought this was in reply to the dub-con convo in recent comments and I was about to be like..."i'm pretty sure dub-con is opt-in"...

[(Anonymous)]

DC

I'd say noncon is opt-in, but dubcon isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

hmmmm, I suppose it depends on what is meant by dub-con and how dub-con it is?

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

I guess it depends on the ship too. But unless it bothers heavily on noncon or is OOC for the ship/thematically very out of place in the fandom, I wouldn't consider it opt-in.

[(Anonymous)]

* borders

[(Anonymous)]

Dubcon is by definition a hard-to-define concept so it can't really be opt-in, but it's probably something I'd try to do only to up to canon level and/or as implied by prompts.

[(Anonymous)]

yay if the recip lists them as something they like!

[(Anonymous)]

IMO, fic focused on holidays appropriate to the canon are opt-out. So like, Hogswatch Night if you're writing Discworld, some Gethenian holiday for Left Hand of Darkness, etc. Just don't go inserting like Christian mythology into canons that don't have it, and if you're writing for a canon set in our world, more or less, don't attribute real-world religious beliefs (especially Christianity) to characters who don't have them.

[(Anonymous)]

OTOH if the a character is known to be like…Margaery Kempe level of Christian? Christmas fic is opt out.

[(Anonymous)]

Prayer to the yuletide gods that this year someone writes a Margaery Kempe social media fic but this time it's her Tumblr/other fan blogs and includes her Yuletide signup please please I'm begging you.

[(Anonymous)]

Only if the recipient requests it and the canon supports it. So, like, no holiday fic for Star Wars (unless your recipient asked for worldbuilding) -- the canon doesn't support it. But if you're writing for The Crown and the recipient seems open to it, well, you know the characters are Christian and you know they celebrate holidays and what those holidays look like, so go for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Only if the recipient requests it and the canon supports it.

No, that should be an 'or'.

I often ask for holiday fic in canons that don't support it, and I don't specifically request or am interested in worldbuilding. I don't care about the details, I'm happy if you slap a generic Christmas-y (or whatever else) festive on to set the mood.

[(Anonymous)]

Life Day fic is always appropriate coalie idk what you mean

[(Anonymous)]

You're joking, but...

[(Anonymous)]

Why would you assume I'm joking, Life Day is not a joking matter

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I feel like Life Day fic generally is an opt-out, but basing something specifically on the Star Wars Holiday Special is an opt-in – can't assume your recip is enough of a masochist to have watched that.

[(Anonymous)]

What if I *want* Holiday Special fic? WHAT THEN?

/Different coalie

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's ever been nommed, coalie. :( Nom it next year and I'll offer.

[(Anonymous)]

holidays that your characters have canonically celebrated are opt-out, any other holidays are opt-in (like, don't assume your characters celebrate Christmas unless it's clear that they do)