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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2020-10-14 05:25 pm
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The Coalies & Other Stories

I will not read them in a Canon-Divergent AU.
I will not read them in Third Point-of-View.
Not in a Crossover! Not in Genfic!
Not in Shipfic! You let me be!

I do not like them in Fanart.
I do not like them even in the Fic of My Heart.
I will not read them in fic of my NOTP.
I do not like them with my OTP.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere!
I do not like my DNWs!


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Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yes it is. The deciding factor whether a story falls on the Romance or the Gen side of things IS its plot - because 'what's happening' is the focus of the story. And with 'Gen' meaning 'anything else that isn't Romance', solving a mystery as your main plot makes the story Gen.

If the main plot of your story is A and B getting together, and the mystery is just the context of how they cross paths, or a complication that keeps them from getting together, it's Romance. If solving cases is the main focus of the story, and not just a backdrop to them working out some relationship problem, it's Gen.

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
with 'Gen' meaning 'anything else that isn't Romance'

So... the gangbang porn fic I read this morning is gen? Good to know!!!!

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I see porn as a subset of romance, since it's about the physical side of a relationship between people. If you write your gangbang as a crime that your detective has to solve, it's Gen, however.

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, at this point I can't even figure out if you have a super weird definition of romance, a super weird definition of ship/gen fic, or if you're just trolling.

But if you seriously think something like snuff porn where the hero gets gangbanged by his enemies and is killed at the end is romance unless you bring in a detective to solve the murderer which then magically makes it gen, I'm not sure what to tell you.

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm laughing, because LOL at the snuff porn romance, but also, I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that the gen fic/ship fic distinction simply doesn't neatly match onto literary genre terminology.

Romance doesn't equal ship fic, and case fic doesn't equal gen fic because those are different modes of distinction.

Ship fic is by definition about a ship, which implies romantic or sexual interaction/attraction, but it doesn't say anything about whether it's romance, tragedy, or straight-up porn.

Gen fic is *not* about ships, although I'd agree that fandom has always been divided on whether gen fic can have background ships or not. I don't have an strong opinion on this, but generally I'd expect gen fic to be about friendship, character development, worldbuilding, etc. But gen fic can also be a variety of literary genres: it can be tragedy, it can be comedy, it can be mystery ... it cannot be porn or romance, though, because [see above].

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes it's about the physical side of a relationship between an eldritch tentacle horror and a person.

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Being stuffed with tentacles and eggs is something that can actually be so personal,

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-17 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
HDU mock their romance, coalie! >:(

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No.

All of my ships are non-canon, so any fic featuring my ship is a shipfic unless they are minor background characters or something. Even if the relationship isn't the focus at all, if they are the leads and they are together, it cannot be gen.

Re: Unpopular Yuletide Opinions

(Anonymous) 2020-10-16 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, this is so fanfiction.net and so not LJ or AO3.