This is Yuletide, everybody make a scene

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I am the sock with the tear-away face

Low-effort with your gift and gone without a trace

I am the "who" when you call, "Who does an exchange without acknowledging their gift?"
I am the wanker blowing through your fics comments
I am the coalie dragging your letter at night
Filling your exchange to the brim with fright!

This is Coaltide!

Nominations: Tuesday 22 September to Thursday 1 October

Sign-ups: Friday 16 October to Monday 26 October

Assignments out: between 26 & 28 October

Default deadline: Friday 11 December

Assignment Deadline: Friday 18 December

Yuletide Discord for Hippos. Google Group for PHs. F_F wiki for history.

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Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

NC

... Which is precisely why people are saying it is unfair to include it. If the only reason why you include this secondary archive is because it has good search features when you know full well there are half a dozen other places where a significant quantity of fic is published, it's unfair and has the effect of excluding some shouldn't-be-eligible big fandoms and including others.

Just make it a rare on ao3 exchange and things are equitable.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

DC I don't find "because we can't count them all we shouldn't count any" to be a particularly persuasive argument,tbh. I'm glad they're counting FF.net. In an ideal world, they'd count wattpad and tumblr too, but I understand why they don't. The perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the good.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

I guess my pitch is to acknowledge that Yuletide is an exchange for people who use ao3, at this point. That’s the fannish community we care about. There’s overlap, of course, with watt pad and ffnet and the rest. And god knows I have some old fic I posted on ffnet from way back. But it’s an ao3 exchange. Why are we randomly grandfathering in another website?

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

DC I guess your pitch is that you're bitter your too-big-for-Yuletide fandom is too big for Yuletide, and why, oh why, won't the mods just get rid of FF.net so your too-big-for-Yuletide fandom can squeeze back in. You're no better than all the idiots that try to lawyer the rules every year to get their clearly ineligible fandoms approved.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

DC

*rolls eyes* I wholly agree with the CYRT, and my biggest fandom has <50 fics total and a whopping 9 fics on FFN. Sometimes people want rule changes for reasons other than blatant self-interest.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

I can guarantee my letter last year was rarer than yours, lol. I think there was a total of five fics in existence, for all my fandoms, both platforms.

I just think consistency is a good.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

dc

My pitch is to get rid of ff.net because the interface fucking sucks. Not a single fandom I have ever requested in more than 10 years has ever been near the limit at any point, even now, but that doesn't mean I can't think the exchange would be better off admitting it's an AO3 exchange and dump ff.net and any other archive.

Re: FFN

[(Anonymous)]

But it's not just that it's easier to search for counting eligibility - it's that it's easier to search for people looking for fic in their fandoms. Wattpad has barriers to navigation for a user who doesn't want to make an account, and I still have not figured out how to find fic on tumblr, as most of what's in the tags I follow are graphics and art, and the fic is pretty much all crossposted to AO3 anyway.

As far as LJ goes, since AO3 grew out of the LJ fandom tradition, much of the old stuff on LJ has been re-archived to AO3.