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coalie ([personal profile] coalcube) wrote in [community profile] coaltide2020-01-01 04:21 pm
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Offseason #1

Use this post for any exchanges running from January onwards into the first quarter of the year. Try to keep final Yuletide thoughts in the last coal post of 2019 for ease of conversation.

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Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You can DNW anything you choose, but some things won't ever be enforced, like a DNW for gen. You can't force someone to write shipfic (or genfic for that matter) in an ODAO exchange.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-03 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
+0.5

You can't DNW gen because that's railroading your author into writing shipfic, but you can absolutely DNW the matched characters in a relationship, unrequested ships, or just straight-up DNW shipfic. If you are only interested in writing porn, Yuletide is not the exchange for you.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-03 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically you can DNW x/z fic but you can't stop a writer from writing the two characters while skirting around an actual ship but having them act in shippy ways and still labeling it gen. I've been on the receiving end of that myself. Some are more transparent than others.

Also, shipfic does not equal porn. Not sure if that's what you're saying with the last sentence or not, but if so, not the same.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-03 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

No, I meant what I said, because I think even if you ship characters, you should still be able to write them interacting as friends (or enemies, as the case may be) unless you're literally only interested in porn. Or contextless kissing, I guess.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-03 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
If all you care about is writing gen, Yuletide isn’t the exchange for you. You should stick to fandoms that do OR matching or match on &-relationships.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, it turns out if you change the words in a sentence, sometimes it's wrong when the original sentence was right. Language is so amazing!

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yuletide and Trick or Treat are the only exchanges you can reasonably expect to write gen for, wtf.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
... This is really not true. For example, you can reasonably expect to write gen for a relationship matching exchange that allows & relationships.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say DNWing shipfic isn't as reasonable as the rest of your examples. If only because the line between gen and shipfic can be surprisingly hard to pin down...

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

And yet somehow exchanges where you can match on & or /, aka gen or ship versions of the same two characters, continue to function.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-05 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but DNWing either gen or shipfic in Yuletide is a great way to get endless wank.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-05 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I've had signups where I've DNWed unrequested ships and requested no ships. If people thought it was endlessly wanky, they sure were wanking quietly.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-05 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
I've DNWed gen in Yuletide for years. If there was wank about it, it was very quiet wank.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-05 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
We have a massive wank about that every year and it's explicitly not an enforceable DNW.

Re: Chocolate Box

(Anonymous) 2020-01-05 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I mean, no wank about me personally. Coalie above suggested that DNWing gen or shipfic would make people wank about you. I'm just saying that's not necessarily true.

Whether or not it's enforceable has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't go to the mods anyway, regardless of whether the DNW violation was about gen or character death.