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Offseason #1

Use this post for any exchanges running from January onwards into the first quarter of the year. Try to keep final Yuletide thoughts in the last coal post of 2019 for ease of conversation.

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Definitely not. Most of my letters are reworked versions of multiple previous letters. I think this is normal.

Nah, write them their ghost possessed widow porn, tag it dubcon because that's what it is, and see how fast they go running to the mod because of receiving a dnw.

There used to be an ao3 recommendation app that someone had created where after installation, a button would appear at the end of ao3 stories and recommend other stories that you might like based of the kudos patterns from people who had kudosed the story.

Does anyone else remember this? Am I making it up from a fever dream hallucination? Is it still out there and if so, does it work?

You're being really wierd all over this thread coalie. The requester clearly considers this sort of thing to be consensual and your need to punish them for that interpretation is pretty creepy.

\o/ Still working on mine, coalie! Soon!

... If that's dubcon on any one, I'd read it as dubcon on the ghostly husbands.

If they're possessing and controlling the wives, how is that dubcon for them?

Haha. You can get it done, coalie!

The request is for the wives to have done a ritual specifically to pull their husbands down for sex. The wives consented ahead of time by specifically planning and trying to get possessed during sex, but the dead husband's presumably didn't find out about the whole thing until they were there.

Okay, then the husbands being pulled into their bodies is at best dubcon. But once they possess the wives, they're in control, unless they're not using the word possession correctly.

Feels like the recips assumptions is that the husbands are going to be a-ok with it all, and not find it dubconny at all. I get that, but I'd personally be afraid to cross a line the recip didn't like.

There are maybe four prompts I know I could write (and hope to write for, time willing). One or two appeal more than the others, and one has a couple requests I definitely don't want. I'm trying to decide whether to game for just one I've already started writing in my head and plan to do the rest as treats, or game for the couple I can write and be surprised, and do the rest as treats.

And then hope I don't get sniped at the last minute by a request on something I offered with no requests.

I love exchange sign-up stress, because it's tense but not in a IRL way. Does that make sense?

The DNW is "dub-con/non-con where a woman is the victim (female aggressors fine)"

It doesn't matter how dubconny or not it is towards the husbands. Since the wives are specifically aiming for this outcome the recip clearly doesn't consider it dubcon towards them.

I didn't read it as them being fully in control, more that the wives have called them down and they're along for the ride now.

I'd read the horror version of this where the widows have all these ~plans but the husbands come back Wrong, and do all sorts of fucked up things with and to their wives' bodies.

It'd be nice if they clarified that somewhere, then, since it's obviously a grey area and DNWs are such a fraught issue in general.

Have you even checked the letter? Between the very specific DNW, the prompt itself, and their note on dub-con/non-con (which is also listed in their likes) it is very clear.

That note, for anyone not looking at the letter:

"**Note on Dub-Con/Non-Con: Most of the time I’m really enthusiastically into dub-con/non-con and the resultant trauma and aftermath of it, but there's a number of requests for this exchange where I'd rather it not be a thing. In an earlier version of this letter, I had canon-specific DNWs indicating that I wasn't up for it in a number of ships, but I've since realized that a general "DNW: dub-con/non-con where a woman is the victim" pretty much covers it and streamlines things a bit."

Idk man, it's a perfectly fine request except for that dnw. If Corpsebrigadier is here or on ffa then they're aware there's confusion over their prompt/dnw clash and the cool thing to do would be to just add a bit of clarification such as: 'I don't consider sex while under the influence of ghosts to be dubcon, please just have the widows super psyched about the ghost sex and we're golden'. It would be a total non issue at that point.

Say someone shows up next week worried about an assignment where they're unsure how to write a prompt because it seems to hit a dnw. Wouldn't we see twelve replies advising them to ask for clarification through the mods? Because that's our standard response to that kind of uncertainty? People in this thread pretending otherwise are the weird ones imo.

dc

It couldn't hurt to ask. But really if CorpseB sees dubcon as women being victims, and they request that women bring the men down and are all right with sex after being possessed (or inhabited, maybe is better), and I'm going to assume the husbands aren't going to be all omg gross sex nooooo, there's probably nothing to worry about. If they thought it skirted their DNW, they'd probably say something to that effect.

You could contact them yourself or check with the mods before matching starts.

DC ...I'm actually more confused now.

The DNW is fine and you're being really ott about this. They make it very clear in their letter that they usually like non-con/dub-con and believe their DNW covers the pairings they don't want to see that for. They don't need to add a clarification that they do indeed want the exact thing they just spent paragraphs prompting just because one coalie has a dubcon definition that includes "enthusiastically and deliberately getting themselves possessed for sex".

Am I correct that only one of the four offers can be Original Work? You can't make four Original Work offers for different requests, right?

You can just offer all your OW ships in one piece.

If Corpsebrigadier is here they're aware you're being silly about this, you mean.

I definitely will but I was hoping to angle my sign-up so I could match on a smut requests no matter what I matched on, and that would have been the safest way. Alas, no.

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