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Your persistent assumption that if we'd only read ALL of it (because you give this shit to people who've read a lot of it), we'd magically convert to Nazi kink, is super creepy, dude.

CYRT

I'm not who you assume I am and have no interest in reading any of Desert Peach. I just see a huge issue with putting that kind of judgment on your shoulders from my own experience as a mod. Best either to ban all media featuring nazis or allow all. Or some other concrete rule. Putting your subjective opinions as the authority, especially without looking at the direct source which no one has time for, will not end well.

CYRT

LOTS of eligibility modding comes down to subjective decisions. Yuletide mods decide every year that some subsets of megafandoms are distinct and others are not. Femslashex mods decide every year which characters are nonbinary enough. Mods make calls about which fics violate DNWs or are incomplete. There's no reason for "no fluffy Nazis" to be the only thing that has to be objective.

And people have issues with the subjective decisions all the time. No one said it was the only thing that had to be objective, but nice straw man.

And yet, those exchanges continue to function. Femslashex ran this year with literal male characters in the tagset, you can handle a mod banning Moe Nazis.

I don't care about nazis, I'll continue to criticize all mods making stupid decisions.

You're free to not sign up for any exchanges you don't want to participate in.

I'll continue to criticize if I'm signed up or not.

NCYRT

criticize

You misspelled "wanking about".

NCYRT

Yes, and when mods make subjective decisions about canons they're not familiar with, they ask exchange participants who are for help.

In this case, you'd be asking Desert Peach fans if the Nazis are too fluffy to be included.

CYRT

They ask people who know those canons, not necessarily people who like them. It'd be pretty stupid if saying "the Tom Bombadil chapter is not a distinct fandom from LOTR" disqualified you from offering your input, wouldn't it? People read Barr's output and tell us this is Nazi fetish fuel. As a mod, I'm not gonna go "you're not a fan, so I don't have to listen to you."

It'd be pretty stupid if saying "the Tom Bombadil chapter is not a distinct fandom from LOTR" disqualified you from offering your input, wouldn't it?

No, sorry, I can't understand what this means. Do you mean, if I read a couple of issues of Batman, I'm now qualified to make a statement on things like...what does or doesn't happen in the entire run of Batman, what values it represents, and how it portrays female characters?

I mean, unless someone could make a coherent argument that the issues you read were unrepresentative, I absolutely think that reading, like, 25% of a canon would qualify you to offer your opinion. Creepy Nazi Nonny has made no attempt to argue that the first quarter of DP is unrepresentative, they keep shooting for "if you keep reading it, a magical process of mind transformation will occur."

"if you keep reading it, a magical process of mind transformation will occur."

That's just it. I've been there, and I've never seen them say that. Or anything about people getting converted into Nazi fetish either.

It takes a certain kind of person to formulate a level-headed argument about the relative representativeness of single issues of a comic while someone is yelling in your ear about what a creepy Nazi you are, and I don't think they're that person.

Yeah, no, this shifting the blame shit ain't gonna work. The canon doesn't radically change midway through, aquatics just thinks that if people get far enough into it, they'll somehow HAVE to be okay with the Nazi kink. This is how they act when reccing the canon and when reccing fics, and that's with people they *haven't* decided to scream threats at.

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Not a great example because Batman has had many writers, while DP is by one person who thinks the Jews are grateful to her for finally telling the real story of World War Two.

NCRT

You spending a year insisting someone has done that, when no-one has, is also pretty creepy. Why are you so obsessed with getting converted into Nazi kink?

...What?

Yeah, I remember you.

Oh boy, I always love it when you get to the "you're only saying no to hide how much you want it" point of the conversation.

Okay, this seems like a case where you need to be putting up the link, because you're only making yourself sound even more like a gross creep with zero boundaries.

It's impossible to link to someone claiming "if we'd only read ALL of it we'd magically convert to Nazi kink" because it never happened.

NA Didn't this whole thread start because of Aquatics coyly reccing DP fic and then mod calling when people exposed what they were doing, or are we on a new version of the wank already?

(Granted, since we know Aquatics is here, I'm assuming a lot of the people in this thread are them. It's exactly that sort of creepy popping up over and over again.)

At this point, I'm so fucking tired of the "everyone who isn't up in arms about Aquatics must be them" assumption that I'm tempted to anonfail on purpose.

That is exactly how this started, yes.

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