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[(Anonymous)]

What isn't true at all? CYRT said you can't get rid of Desert Peach with a rule banning sympathetic portrayals of Nazi Germany, and it sounds like you agree.

Who is going to go through all these canons with Nazis in them to determine whether some Nazi character they contain is portrayed too sympathetically?

[(Anonymous)]

CIRT said a rule banning Desert Peach would also catch Schindler's List, which is idiotic.

If you had a "no sympathetic portrayals of Nazi Germany" rule Aquatics would wank endlessly about whether Desert Peach was in fact sympathetic to Nazi Germany, something where it probably is genuinely a bit of an edge case. But what's inarguably true is that Desert Peach is sympathetic to Erwin Rommel, so if you want to get rid of it you just need a rule banning shit sympathetic to people like Rommel.

The mods would make these decisions when the canons are nominated, just like they'd made eligibility decisions about any other canon. Since the vast majority of them are never going to be nominated, it's hardly going to place an undue administrative burden on them.

[(Anonymous)]

But what's inarguably true is that Desert Peach is sympathetic to Erwin Rommel,

Since you're obviously read the comic, and "sympathetic" can mean a lot of things, could you define what it means here? The wacky comedy portrays him as human? The wacky comedy doesn't show him personally committing mass murder?

[(Anonymous)]

The wacky comedy portrays him as one of the good guys, to the point of inventing a wacky comedy fictional brother for him so readers can squee about their familial relationship.

"Erwin is the sweetest big brother, awkward and cool!" Aquatics gushes, like a total fucking lunatic, while all the sane people back the fuck away. Media designed to elicit that reaction qualifies as "sympathetic".

Now, I don't claim to be a Desert Peach expert; if you want to make a case that Aquatics has totally misread the comic/associated media I'm prepared to hear it.

[(Anonymous)]

I searched for the squee, and all I can say is that those two threads aren't about Desert Peach the comic. They're about some kind of alternate history novel self-published by Barr, featuring some of the same characters. I only know it from what I just read on dememe.

[(Anonymous)]

NCYRT rather thinks that this doesn't make much of a difference. Ban DP, ban DP & Associated Fandoms, hell, ban every Donna Barr work and nothing of value would be lost. "Oh, I understand if you don't want to get into Afterdead because they all wear Nazi costumes and love their Fuhrer, but don't worry, those are just trappings, the real focus is the eugenics kink so it's not very Naziesque really."

[(Anonymous)]

Please stop putting your takes on aquatics' weird takes on aquatics' weird canons in direct quotes. This discussion is hard enough to keep track of as it is.