Re: Yuletiding reflections?

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like anon exchange discussion falls victim to the inevitable cycle that happened with MST/sporking comms and basically anything that relies on venting and wank reporting: it works well early on when everybody's got a backlog of genuine grievances to bitch about, but once that's all been picked to death and you get a year or two where there's very little new that's genuinely worth the group outrage, everybody turns to trying to generate artificial wank out of innocuous things or dredges up older stuff so frequently or long afterwards that it just starts feeling grudgewanky. Some years there just honestly ain't that much wank to be had, but the memes still gotta keep pouncing on whatever wank potential they can find or create, so it drives away more positive discussion as people see things that seem harmless get seized on and decide they don't want to risk bringing things they like to meme attention.

Re: Yuletiding reflections?

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

The thing about coal (namely this 2.0 reboot) is that it doesn’t have to be about wank. The game where people rating their treating order, talk about what good letters and good commenters they like, etc are all positive. Most of what people come here for is positive based. There are some people that want wank (or feel that there’s no point in positive anon spaces because it is all things you can say in namespace) and so they do two things: make threads like bad letters or which fics suck, which is negative but at least contained, and then they will butt into positive threads and give their unwanted opinion (“you may like x for being a long commenter but I actually hate long comments and thing x does this for performative attention”, “why would anyone want to write for someone with a letter that is 10x the minimum”, “i thought this fic sucked and why write x bottom? what a waste”) that adds nothing to the conversation beyond undermining the OPs opinion, and that sort of thing/entitlement (“we’re in a hatecomm anyway and if you didnt want random opinions then why post?”) to be nasty is what makes coal undesirable for happy discussion. A wanky thread or two is fine, but if you can’t even have a positive one then you stop trying to share positive content.