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Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

I think they preferred getting a gift, yeah. Writing about what you like (and filing off the serials here and there to reuse that info) for maybe a weekend and then keeping an eye on when your gifts are posted/a defaulting schedule sounds like way less work that the 5 digit cumulative wordcount I pull off every Yuletide. It’s more work to me because I like writing and getting a gift equally, but people sign up to PH (doesn’t misura not sign up at all?) and write 30k without getting anything and have a great time. This is the opposite of that but the exact same mindset: putting in effort for what you think is fun and engaging in a way where you don’t have to do anything that isn’t fun, in their case writing to someone else’s prompts or at all.

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

When you put it like this though, it kind of sounds like sock accounts aren't all that bad, if everyone is having fun doing what they like, either writing fic or writing a bunch of letters/doing that maintenance work I guess

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

My potentially hot take is that I don't think socks are all that bad. This person is overkill but as someone who likes writing treats to people's id, as long as they have a letter and leave decent comments? I don't mind if they're hacking the system to get a lot of gift if they're allowing authors the chance to create for fandoms they love. I would rather a sock army than a bunch of participants who hate letters/prompts and also don't care about their own gift and only sign up because they need a deadline to finish their own ideas.

I don't remember the details of this sock army but I think they didn't comment (which makes them a trash recip in my book) and that's where I enter the ban them camp. If they had actually been a good egg recip or (and this is what most socks do) turned in gifts for at least half of those accounts, I wouldn't have any judgement for them.

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

Socks aren't as disruptive as people playing "not touching you" with DNWs, but large sock armies are still participating in a way that everyone else has to put in extra effort to deal with. Maybe they're putting work into their prompts, but that's their business. They're still making other people do more work. And tricking them into it rather than the authors just making a choice to treat them.

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

I really think there's a difference between one sock and many.

I don't agree with official YT policy not allowing any socks (which it's well known many people don't follow). But having more than 1-2 socks does seem wrong to me.

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

I think we agree on some aspects. I agree there's a huge difference between having a sock army and having one sock.

The Yuletide policy, eh, it's true that some people sock up and they don't do anything about it. But since it is policy, if you can't even effectively hide your socks, you're failing at the first hurdle and can't be trusted to sign up twice IMHO. So it's more like "sock if you must but you'd better not let us know about it."

Re: Yuletide history

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I think of it as the same sort of thing as getting Al Capone convicted on charges of tax evasion. It wasn't the biggest of his crimes, but it was the one that could be easily proven in court. If your socks are well-behaved, Yuletide mods won't notice (or, if they notice, they won't care, based on anecdotal evidence of, uh, a friend). But if your socks do dodgy stuff that isn't explicitly against the rules otherwise or is hard to prove, they can ban you for socking.