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Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I can actually see it for something like Discworld or Jeeves? They have the kind of voice where someone trying to pastiche and failing can be like nails on a chalkboard, so something like "pterry's writing style is so distinct that only he can pull it off, I'd rather see something about the characters in your voice, writer" would be mildly wanky if someone is overly judgemental but not fundamentally bad?

if "more like canon, but poorly done" bugs someone enough that they have to make it an enforceable DNW, though, yuletide just might not be the exchange for them.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

+1

There are some canons where getting the voice wrong is worse than just doing plain transparent prose.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

And given yuletide there are some canons where you say "I love canon but if you give me actual cuneiform tablets I will also need an English prose translation"

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Now I'm imagining someone uploading a photo of their clay tablet with the little reed strokes, and arguing with the mods about how to calculate the word count in the syllabary.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Is it bad that I want this for the Ea-Nasir contingent?

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

I am planning to treat the Ea-Nasir prompt... but I don't want to give someone unrequested cuneiform.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Yes, I mean, sure, I don't really want anyone to give unrequested cuneiform, but I do love the idea of someone requesting and being gifted fic in cuneiform.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Now this I can get behind!

(I've been chuckling over the phrase "unrequested cuneiform" for the past few minutes, so all around, well done everyone. :D)

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

But what if it’s canon-typical cuneiform? I think we have to assume it’s opt-out at that point!

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

The rules say it has to be in English but they don't say it has to be the Latin alphabet!

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Who wants to be responsible for the "in English using Latin characters" rule change in 2022? Show of hands?

"Are Clay tablets opt in or opt out?" is not something I ever thought I would say but here we are. Consider my day brightened

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

C CYRT RYT Excellent point coalie. Is fic in cuneiform for a cuneiform fandom opt out? (I kid I kid, because TPTB know that if I received fic in the original language for some of my fandoms I would be SOL)

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

IIRC we've had Beowulf(? or something similar?) fic in the original at least once, and I think it squeaked in as being in English on a technicality.

(jk they did also provide a translation)

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

I think there was Tay Bridge fic in Latin last year or the year before. But I'm pretty sure the recipient has opted into that.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

There's a tutorial that goes around Tumblr every year this season about how to do cuneiform tablet gingerbread, I wouldn't be surprised if someone does it for Yuletide eventually for either that or Gilgamesh.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Then make a canon-specific "DNW: fic that imitates the Wodehousian voice". It will turn off some writers, but so will "only imitate the canon voice if you can do it well", and that's not enforceable.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Oh, yeah, poorly done pastiche can be pretty painful, but for me personally something that doesn't even attempt to capture that kind of distinctive narrative voice doesn't work as fic of the canon at all, no matter how good it is on any other level. So as a writer that DNW would be an unworkable insta-default for me, equivalent to "DNW: IC characters". (Which is exactly why I would never request or blindly offer these types of canons, because I'm far too wankily fussy about what works for me and I know it.)

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

na

I don't DNW pastiche, and I'm picky about character voices sounding right in dialogue, but in narration, the fic trying to imitate the "distinctive narrative voice" would probably make me balk too and I would never try that myself as a writer because I find it so annoying as a reader.

I just don't think there's any way for participants like you and participants like me or the pastiche DNWing person to match to each other and be happy with the outcome.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

CYRT

Yeah. I think it's just a fundamental mismatch in what elements people see as necessary to be in place for it to still feel like fanfic of the canon.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

I've read Discworld fic that made no attempt at the voice but captured the ship perfectly, and Discworld fic that captured the voice but screwed up everything else, and Discworld fic that attempted the voice and failed, and personally I'd take #1 out of those options. but ymmv.