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Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

This is the answer. A lot of people probably did watch or will watch but aren’t fannish. Those who like canon mlm prioritized watching it and somebody liked it enough to nom. The canon/fanon wlw fans didn’t bother prioritizing because it is a show for het and mlm fans. Of course a mlm fan is going to like it enough to nominate while someone who likes wlw isn’t going to bother.

Kicking up a fuss that people like gay stuff over implied lesbian or canon het feels like ‘anything with women is inherently progressive’ eat your vegetables bullshit. Shipping isn’t activism.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's vegetables/shipping-as-activism, nonnie, it's reasonable to wonder why a femslashy show had only some side m/m nominated.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

People try to wank about this every year as if it’s new. Every year on old coal someone would be 🚨 shocked that someone nominated that mlm couple for Babysitters club.

Femslash fans who actually create femslash conent didn’t want the canon, slash fans did, casuals who apparently get upset that other fans like rare characters in rare fandoms pop up with ‘isn’t it interesting that…’

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, I'm definitely still surprised that the "mlm couple" for BSC was so popular because it was a non-canon ship between two minor characters who were nine years old in canon.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

You being weird about underage too absolutely tracks. Mention whitecock too girl.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Whoa there.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

cyrt

Not sure who you think I am here, but I'm elsewhere in the thread talking about why The Nevers might not have been a high priority for femslashers while people who like canon m/m were into it. And yet, I still think it's weird that the biggest BSC ship is between two extremely minor characters who are preteen children at the time we see them in canon and barely interact even when we see them. It's weird!

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Over a third of the fics in that pairing are either by or for one person, and most of the rest are by or for about three other people. Congrats! You to can make people whine about your rarepair by writing dozens of fic and requesting it in every exchange!

Meanwhile the TV show, which has canon wlw and majority f/f fic, has the four main female chars nommed, so I don't really think the lack of f/f in the book fandom this year is down to misogyny.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Firstly, wait, which ship is canon in the show? And secondly, chill, nonny, it's not misogyny, it's just strange when fandom latches onto minor characters like that sometimes.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Do you realize this is Yuletide. Why are you here if you find it weird people are into specific characters in small fandoms? Welcome to the whole point if the exchange.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is about how it's the largest ship in the fandom, nonny, not it being nominated at YT.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

It's literally the only m/m ship in the fandom, the second place one is Sam/Bucky.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, what?

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding your what. What????

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Right, but sometimes in fandoms where the main characters are eight women, the largest ship isn't m/m.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

sa

like "duh, of course it's the largest, it's the only m/m ship" is both a) backwards logic (there are probably other m/m options if you just want to bash two male character from canon together) and b) not a fait accompli?

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

I wasn't fostering a well-reasoned argument, I was just amused that Sam/Bucky is second place.

Sometimes in a very small nostalgia fandom with 8 main female characters and no obvious ships there are 64 plausible f/f pairings, many of which are written, a ton of canon het, and one person's weird obsession.

Like I don't disagree that fandom has a problem with bland side character m/m but BSC is a real weird hill to die on for it.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Sam/Bucky is second place for what? In what fandom? I just checked the BSC show and The Nevers and don't see any Sam/Bucky. What are you even talking about?

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

If you go to the BSC book fandom and filter for m/m fic, the second most common m/m ship is Sam/Bucky (with a whole two fics). (It's the book fandom that everybody's wanking about.)

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Take that up with fans of those characters and not the fans minding their own business and creating content in their own wank free bubble.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

DC

Nonnie, if you genuinely cannot handle “it’s mildly weird that this is the largest ship in the fandom,” a non-canon ship between two ten-year-old background characters might just not be the right ship for you.

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Idk, i just recently saw some Tumblr friends squeeing that Claudia was just confirmed gay, but they didn't source it so maybe I'm wrong. (I doubt they'd canonize an MC ship on the show but I believed someone having a coming out storyline.)

Still I think most of the f/f people have moved to the show (as evidenced by my Tumblr friends.)

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

It was Claudia's sister Janine!

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, slightly misremembered! Also yay, i always wanted to be Janine when I grew up! I guess I have the "queer" and the "hiding candy everywhere" down!

Re: Canon Recs - Canon Gay TV Shows

[(Anonymous)]

It's not even that femslash fans didn't want the canon. I remember seeing f/f BSC requests in previous Yuletides.

Also, the current breakdown of top BSC categories on AO3 is Gen (332), F/M (229), F/F (175), M/M (76). It's just that for whatever reason m/m fans in this fandom mostly coalesced around a single ship, while f/m and f/f fans shipped a variety of ships.