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[(Anonymous)]

TBH sometimes a hard “they’re banned because I say so” is what #leadership means. I don’t doubt her defenders are thinking “but what about MY pet dark fandom??” or “but what about the time I lingered three exchanges in a row???” but sometimes the one person just sucks.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Hamilton hating coalie from downthread would vastly prefer just banning Aquatics over trying to make it a generalizable moral stand, because honesty, I’m preemptively annoyed and hurt about the inevitable dismissal of all the complaints about anti-Black or colonialist canons. I don’t mind people being fannish about those things, but it would really suck to hear someone try to explain to me why such-and-such canon is not *really* as bad as Nazis, because in fact, they don’t find whatever exchange regular who loves it as bad as Aquatics.

[(Anonymous)]

i don’t see how it can work. she can make another account; if you ban DP, i’m pretty sure she can find another fandom to get into. if it really is sympathetic (semi-)real nazis that are the only thing that makes her feel fannish, there are plenty of those. so you either have to keep banning their socks, or make a moral ban to cover nazi stuff, in which case people like airt will be upset because some racist/antisemetic things are banned and not all. and if you ban anything racist then it becomes a question of why not noncon or underage etc, and it really is the purity exchange (which i think is fine for people who want that, but fandom would flip out).

tl;dr banning aquatics = but they can sock up and pretend to be someone new into dp. banning aquatics + dp = people will want other wankers and problematic fandoms banned too and then you’re the person running consent exchange with 14 people.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, wouldn’t be the first time fandom sniffed out socks, and the job would be pretty easy if they stuck with shit like WaterWhirl.

Besides, a lot of the issue with them is their campaigns around their and DP’s reputation. If they quietly sneak back with new softe Nazis that get written and don’t get a covert reccing campaign, what the fuck ever, I still won’t like, write for, or knowingly read anything by them, but it’d bring them down to a level of asshole that isn’t a constant stitch in exchanges’ sides.

[(Anonymous)]

i can agree with that. i just think they are the type to make a sock and pimp whatever it is they’re into and so it’ll be constant banning of them and their fandoms, with other people chiming in with “what about this problematic thing too?”

like, there is a different reality where aquatics is really into sherlock and hypes it as a canon gay established relationship show with *insert whatever trope/kink the rec requester mentioned* and is coy about it for ages and then when asked for the name they say sherlock, and you’re like no it is not canon, it is a crime procedural and not domestic, and it isn’t about unhealthy pissplay underage - why did you lie to me about all of these things! also you said the leads were hot and young and “ambiguously ethnic” and they’re literally played by cumberbatch and freeman!?

they’re just that kind of person. and i’m not sure how you solve that by banning/rules that doesn’t open the door to let them back in via sock or start having to push more people out lest you look like a hypocrite for displeasing the people bothered with them in the first place. the general mood seems to be people that don’t care/notice aquatics on meme and want them ignored (who would avoid your exchange if you banned them) and people who hate aquatics and want them gone (who will have other fandoms they want booted too or will want you to keep playing whackamole with their socks)....

[(Anonymous)]

That behavior is annoying, but it's not racist. This is a non-negligible difference.

[(Anonymous)]

It is a well-known fact on the internet that simply calling someone annoying is not effective and to give your wank more credibility, throwing around words like racist/abusive/misogynist/pedophile/etc. is very helpful, regardless of how much you have to stretch the original meaning of those terms.

Admittedly, I find "annoying" too mild a term when it comes to Aquatics' behaviour, but that still doesn't make her racist.

[(Anonymous)]

She'd throw a fit, but she does that everyday anyway. Think of how much better exchanges would be without her.