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Everyone is very hung up on recips having a great YT experience, but seem not so concerned with the writer's experience.

Most people who are recipients are writers too, and vice versa. It's just that for a lot of us (not all of us, obviously), the "Yuletide experience" hinges on the gift.

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Also, the writer has complete control over what they gift. Most of the fics that have been complained about here were because of spag or strange/odao/"some people would have assumed that was opt-in" authorial choices. The recip can't do much to control if they get a gift with those things, but the author can easily get a beta and make choices to avoid the other pitfalls if they aren't willing to risk their fic getting refused.

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Also, if one is really concerned about seeing negative things about their fic, they can just, um, not go here?

I wish I could see negative things about my fic. At least then it wouldn't sink like lead.

This is a surprise to me, frankly. I sign up to get some writing done, usually things I wouldn't otherwise have written.

I only sign up to exchanges for the gifts. I put a lot of work into my writing because I want to make it good for my recipient, and if they ended up hating it I'd feel sad, but it wouldn't ruin Yuletide for me the way a bad gift does.

That's interesting to hear, as I come from the opposite side. I received a gift I didn't like much even though the writer obviously wanted to make me happy, but I'm much more bummed that the fic I wrote is doing pretty badly.

Each to their own exchange experience, I suppose.

CYRT I actually stirred up some wank here earlier because I said I didn't care much about my gift fic (which turned out to be quite nice and I left a glowing comment). I'm in YT to give, not get. That's how I approach Christmas in RL, too. So while I get what you're saying, it's not my take on things.

And you can control your actions (how much you write, the effort you put in to please the recip) and now how others act (if your recip will like it, be gracious if they don’t, etc). There’s no way to get recips to act well like there is for authors, since commenting isn’t even mandated. The trade off is that you can pretty much write anything and be an asshole as an author, and the mods will stand by you.

If you want a recip that obviously cares about authors and will write you feedback with as much consideration that I’m guessing you put into their stories, the top tier good commenter recips are known and right there. Treat them, game to match with them, etc. Again, you are in charge of your Yuletide experience. Recips can’t use the same type of agency to game themselves a good author. If bad recips bother you, get a good recip.

If you want a recip that obviously cares about authors and will write you feedback with as much consideration that I’m guessing you put into their stories, the top tier good commenter recips are known and right there. Treat them, game to match with them, etc. Again, you are in charge of your Yuletide experience. Recips can’t use the same type of agency to game themselves a good author. If bad recips bother you, get a good recip.

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I'm mostly in exchanges for the writing. I love getting good gifts, but a meh gift won't ruin my exchange the way a non-commentor/meh comment will. But that's why if I'm assigned to someone who, based on their history, is not a good commentor, I make sure to make time to write at least one treat for someone who is, so that I'm guaranteed some of the good feedback warm fuzzies for that exchange.

Also like, write treats or pinch hit people who give good feedback.

This can save a Yuletide experience every time.

the top tier good commenter recips are known and right there. Treat them, game to match with them, etc.

Yup!

If you want a recip that obviously cares about authors and will write you feedback with as much consideration that I’m guessing you put into their stories, the top tier good commenter recips are known and right there. Treat them, game to match with them, etc.

Yup. And worth pointing out that gaming towards a good commenter is hella easy in every other multifandom exchange that's not Yuletide because requests are visible during sign ups.

I meanwhile was trying to get assigned to the ultra-rare request of my dreams this Yuletide and got a recip whose comment rep is legendary instead but who was requesting a different fandom that I was less enthusiastic about writing. ::sadface::

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But gaming towards good commenters only works if you share fandoms in common. With Yuletide, you might not know or be able to access their rare fandoms.

There’s enough good eggs in all corners of fandom (books, anime, f/f, xeno, etc) that you should have someone that likes the basic levels of things you do. If you’re really into writing good prompts/having a happy recip, it isn’t hard to get into their f/f live action cdrama as opposed to your fav f/f live action kdrama.

If you’re only willing to write the fandoms you came into Yuletide feeling passionate about and won’t get into new things, then you need to compromise. Your inflexibility is a choice, and one of the side effects of that may mean you will get a recip that doesn’t communicate the way you want or who doesn’t like the fandom(/your fic) as much as you do.

Nah. It's a pretty even split amongst the hardcore coal types.

A lot of us use Yuletide as a prompt generator. We're mainly here for the writing, not the receiving.

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