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Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Recreating the author's style well is widely considered* to be a big part of what makes fic for book fandoms good. Which I think is what's tripping people up.

*Source: every time I have ever seen "this reads just like canon!" In a comment or rec over the last 22 years

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

But not everyone feels that way.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

But to everyone who does, this DNW sounds like "DNW: good fic".

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

That's true for a number of DNWs. It doesn't make them less legitimate DNWs.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

dc - But I think the point is that this isn't like "DNW shipfic" or "DNW angst" or something. At least for some of us, it literally reads like a DNW for writing the characters and setting well. "Write me a story about these characters but don't make it resemble canon." You'd have to at least explain what you want it to resemble instead of canon, or what aspects of canon you want it to not resemble.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

IDK about the person who DNWs it, but I to me DNW: pastiche would just be the narrative voice and style, not the characters and the setting. Unless the author has a fairly bland modern prose style, not trying to resemble their style wouldn't be a big issue. I can see how it might be a complicated DNW if you match on, say, a Star Trek novel or Harry Potter. But if you match on Shakespeare or Hugo or Austen, the DNW is clear and easy to follow.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

DA

On the other hand, if you match on a first-person novel, capturing the character's voice is inherently pastiching the canon. If I offered, I don't know, Spinning Silver and matched to someone who DNWed pastiche, I'd definitely have to try to write that in third person because I have no idea where the line would be between "character's voice" and "pastiche of the canon style" when the character is the narrator.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

You'd have to do the same if they DNWed first person, which a lot of people do (especially in canons with first person narration).

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Right, but in that case that's a literal DNW of that thing, not "I can't tell if they'd consider accurately matching the character voice to trip their DNW or not."

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I'd definitely avoid 1st person POV for a canon with 1st person narration when the recip has a pastiche DNW! That isn't the same as matching the character voice in dialogue.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I think figuring out how to write tight 3rd from the 1st person narrator's POV without mimicking the voice of the novel would be tricky, though. In that case I'd either go with 3rd omniscient or pick another POV character.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Or it sounds like "You aren't allowed to play to your strengths but I won't tell you what to do instead."

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

Source: every time I have ever seen "this reads just like canon!" In a comment or rec over the last 22 years

I've always assumed those comments were the result of a fic occupying the overlapping space in a Venn diagram whose circles are "This fic is good," and "This fic's style is similar to canon." After all, if a fic is good but isn't stylistically similar to the book, it would feel a bit weird to comment, "This reads nothing like canon!" But that doesn't mean that good but stylistically different-from-canon fics don't exist.

Re: DNW Workshop

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

that is a fair criticism of my dataset